Fixing the Narn / G'Quan

[Foxmeister]

Since we are just playing thought experiments, here's an idea. Let's just call it an "alternate universe" G'Quan since it will never see the light of day!

How about a 6AD Boresight beam, the O/S e-mine, and a few AD of Ion torps? Damage as it is in the fleet book, with the the Light Pulse Cannons upgraded to regular Pulse Cannons to give them 10" range leaving the TL Light Ion Cannons as is.

Now for the P&P "cool" bit.

It seems that the general concensus (on these boards at least) is that the new Narn 4+ CBD is too powerful, so i'd suggest the following new SA for the G'Quan and its variants only (much like HET is only for White Stars).

Special Action: Advanced Focussing Lenses (poor name I know!)
CQ: Automatic

The G'Quan has an immensely powerful twin laser cannon, but this power can only be used when firing directly ahead (Boresight). The Narn have managed to procure sophisticated focussing lenses to allow them to redirect the fire from a single beam to cover a much wider arc. When the focussing lasers SA is employed, the G'Quan is able to fire a single 3AD beam in the front arc at 18" range, or a single 1AD beam to either port or starboard arcs at 12" range.

This would then allow the G'Quan to perform as it does on screen, when it is regularly seen firing a single beam well off bore (indeed outside F arc too), and also seen firing what are clearly exceedingly powerful double beams at range (and on bore).

Thoughts, criticism, comments?

Regards,

Dave

 

[Greg Smith]

Lumbering + 45o turns + B arc = Sorry excuse for a warship.

Like the Omega?

 

[H]

I like it, which means it will never see the light of day. (i'm assuming it retains 30" on bore)

 

[Foxmeister]

Like the Omega?

Well, yes actually! Though the Omega is much better armed.

Personally, I think 1/45 is penalty enough and Lumbering is really just a step too far and isn't really needed.

Regards,

Dave

 

[Foxmeister]

I like it, which means it will never see the light of day. (i'm assuming it retains 30" on bore)

That is the intention!

Regards,

Dave

 

[H]

Like the Omega?

Well, yes actually! Though the Omega is much better armed.

Personally, I think 1/45 is penalty enough and Lumbering is really just a step too far and isn't really needed.

Regards,

Dave

except at 8" and below

 

[Da Boss]

which seldom comes into play

 

[Greg Smith]

It seems that the general concensus (on these boards at least) is that the new Narn 4+ CBD is too powerful, so i'd suggest the following new SA for the G'Quan and its variants only (much like HET is only for White Stars).

Special Action: Advanced Focussing Lenses (poor name I know!)
CQ: Automatic

The G'Quan has an immensely powerful twin laser cannon, but this power can only be used when firing directly ahead (Boresight). The Narn have managed to procure sophisticated focussing lenses to allow them to redirect the fire from a single beam to cover a much wider arc. When the focussing lasers SA is employed, the G'Quan is able to fire a single 3AD beam in the front arc at 18" range, or a single 1AD beam to either port or starboard arcs at 12" range.

This would then allow the G'Quan to perform as it does on screen, when it is regularly seen firing a single beam well off bore (indeed outside F arc too), and also seen firing what are clearly exceedingly powerful double beams at range (and on bore).

Thoughts, criticism, comments?

Regards,

Dave

I like it.

It does indeed work like we see the G'Quan in 'And Now for a Word.'

My only problem with it is it duplicates Track That Target somewhat.

Would your intent be to have this in conjunction with a 5AD (or 6AD) beam?

 

[Foxmeister]

Would your intent be to have this in conjunction with a 5AD (or 6AD) beam?

On screen, I think that the G'Quan double beam is clearly one of the most powerful shown so I'd don't think 6AD is unfair, so it goes 6/3/1, but I suppose it works just as well with 5/3/1 (Hint: I like the 3! ).

Yes, it does duplicate TTT somewhat, and at 30" range, you could still TTT anyway if you wanted to, but to differentiate it it's:

a) Automatic, so no CQ check.
b) At significantly reduced range.

I feel we see the G'Quan fire a single beam well off bore often enough in the show that it should be pretty much "free" (as far as an SA can be anyway), but when it does so the beam is never sustained like the double bore beam, so reduced power and range seem to fit.

Regards,

Dave

 

[H]

and if this is applied to the G'Quanth, does it give it that little extra "something" to make it at least worth considering? on the g'lan do you go 4, 2, 1 at it's current range?

 

[Foxmeister]

and if this is applied to the G'Quanth, does it give it that little extra "something" to make it at least worth considering? on the g'lan do you go 4, 2, 1 at it's current range?

I'd have the G'Lan 4/2/1 at ranges 18/12/8, since it's only a medium laser cannon anyway.

Regards,

Dave

 

[Foxmeister]

Actually, thinking about it a bit more, I'd have the G'Lan with a 4AD 18" F arc Mag Gun with 2AD of Ion torps and no laser cannon at all! It's keep the wording of the SA much simpler!

Regards,

Dave

 

[H]

good call, actually make the mag cruiser, a real mag cruiser instead of that paltry 2 AD gun. ..

 

[Greg Smith]

I feel we see the G'Quan fire a single beam well off bore often enough in the show that it should be pretty much "free" (as far as an SA can be anyway), but when it does so the beam is never sustained like the double bore beam, so reduced power and range seem to fit.

It does indeed. But other than 'And Now for a Word', when do we see it off bore?

 

[H]

I feel we see the G'Quan fire a single beam well off bore often enough in the show that it should be pretty much "free" (as far as an SA can be anyway), but when it does so the beam is never sustained like the double bore beam, so reduced power and range seem to fit.

It does indeed. But other than 'And Now for a Word', when do we see it off bore?

even once is more times than the WS ;-)

 

[Lord David the Denied]

Even once is enough times.

 

[greenboy]

How about a pair of 5ad slow loading beams Fluff they copied them off of the centauri but the shunt more power throught them to increase the damage but this causes over heating.

this would give you the same fire power as now or you can double it and cbd every other turn your choice

 

[Greg Smith]

Once is enough that it should be represented in the game. But how powerful and how easily it should be to do, depends on how it appears in the show.

When this is said:

I feel we see the G'Quan fire a single beam well off bore often enough in the show that it should be pretty much "free" (as far as an SA can be anyway

I want to see if there is more that the single ship that I am aware of.

 

[Foxmeister]

I want to see if there is more that the single ship that I am aware of.

There was a thread a few months ago where several examples were shown. My search-fu is weak at the moment, but I'll continue to look!

Regards,

Dave

 

[H]

Once is enough that it should be represented in the game. But how powerful and how easily it should be to do, depends on how it appears in the show.

When this is said:

I feel we see the G'Quan fire a single beam well off bore often enough in the show that it should be pretty much "free" (as far as an SA can be anyway

I want to see if there is more that the single ship that I am aware of.

it wasn't a huge number for sure, obviously the main power of the G'Quan beam IS when fired as 2 in a bore/slightly off bore mode, rather than a single beam at an angle.