State of the Mongoose 2024

Conversations are being had, things look hopeful...

Most excellent! DGP's stuff has been in a limbo so long, that any hope (even a little) is very welcome.

I am fortunate enough to have most of their major publications in my collection, but the 20 odd Travellers' Digests that they published I have only a few and would really love to get them all as a PDF collection one day. To say nothing of letting everyone get a chance to get PDFs of DGP's excellent back catalog at long last.
 
Most excellent! DGP's stuff has been in a limbo so long, that any hope (even a little) is very welcome.

I am fortunate enough to have most of their major publications in my collection, but the 20 odd Travellers' Digests that they published I have only a few and would really love to get them all as a PDF collection one day. To say nothing of letting everyone get a chance to get PDFs of DGP's excellent back catalog at long last.
Yes yes yes yes yes. And while I don't think anything would block Mongoose from consing up their own Grand Tour, it'd sure be nice to have Dr Krenstein and Aybee Wan Owen in the band. (And I still cherish hopes that the Old Timer will show up again.)
 
Most excellent! DGP's stuff has been in a limbo so long, that any hope (even a little) is very welcome.

I am fortunate enough to have most of their major publications in my collection, but the 20 odd Travellers' Digests that they published I have only a few and would really love to get them all as a PDF collection one day. To say nothing of letting everyone get a chance to get PDFs of DGP's excellent back catalog at long last.
There's a lot of classic and megatraveller stuff I'd like to see back in print, but collected volumes of the Digests would be very near the top of the list. PDFs would be a good start, but I like hard copies (and shudder to think about what the early issues must cost now).

More broadly, I wonder if there would be a market for some of the older stuff being properly reissued. Chaosium have re-released old versions of a few things, DC Heroes is being reissued, and Goodman Games produce a steady stream of expanded old D&D modules. Might something similar work for Traveller too?
 
More broadly, I wonder if there would be a market for some of the older stuff being properly reissued. Chaosium have re-released old versions of a few things, DC Heroes is being reissued, and Goodman Games produce a steady stream of expanded old D&D modules. Might something similar work for Traveller too?
You have me imagining a facsimile edition of Little Black Books and all of a sudden I am ten years old again and wasting time in a fondly remembered game shop long gone now.
 
Are there any (even vague) future plans for a Mongoose Traveller system based version of Twilight 2000?
Very vague. If Free League decide that they want to step away, we will step up and it would likely be Traveller. But absolutely no plans to do this in the near future.
Most of the State of Mongoose 2024 was great, but I admit this one made me kind of sad. I am not a real fan of Free League games but I loved TW2k and was excited it might get the same treatment 2300AD did. Such is life. Sometimes you just do not get what you hoped for. :-(
 
Most of the State of Mongoose 2024 was great, but I admit this one made me kind of sad. I am not a real fan of Free League games but I loved TW2k and was excited it might get the same treatment 2300AD did. Such is life. Sometimes you just do not get what you hoped for. :-(
I mean, it gives me the fantods for TW2K and 2300CE to be under different rooves, but if Mongoose and Fria Ligan are both happy with status quo then who am I to beef.
 
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If you did a system conversion document for Mongoose Traveller, Classic Traveller and the other editions, you could also include conversion notes for Fria Ligen's Twilight: 2000 in the same document.
 
Legend
As things stand, Legend continues to run on OGL and, for our part at least, this will not change.

As for Mongoose’s own work on Legend, for quite some time we have been looking at doing a new edition of the game. However, while we will be bringing a new fantasy RPG to light in the future, it will not be driven by Legend. Because of that, we will be sunsetting our own publishing plans for it and effectively turning it over to the community.

May your creations be wondrous and fantastic!

So Legend is basically dead in the water insofar as anything new for it. That's a real shame. I can't say I'm surprised, but it's a shame.

Regarding the purchase of the building - are you buying the whole building? Ie downstairs as well as upstairs? Will you become the Leaseholds and thus able to own the Freehold as well, or is this just a purchase of the upstairs area and you'll still be beholden to the Leaseholders?
 
Freehold.

Nice. Full control. You didn't answer about downstairs, though? (Is it still a bed shop? I've not been by in two years since stopping the estate agency job in Swindon) I'm just thinking of you potentially setting up a full-blown games cafe and shop downstairs.
 
One thing I love about this is your comment on AI art. The question has honestly, in a lot of forums, become hugely toxic, wityh more screaming than talk, and you've put out a very good reason why you don't use it, backed it up with evidence, yet haven't attacked other view points, rather going: "we can see why some people might want to use it, but here's why you might not want to in a professional capacity, and this is why." Very well done.
 
Nice. Full control. You didn't answer about downstairs, though? (Is it still a bed shop? I've not been by in two years since stopping the estate agency job in Swindon) I'm just thinking of you potentially setting up a full-blown games cafe and shop downstairs.
It does include the shop, and using it for ourselves is indeed something that has sparked discussion here.
 
My wife and I have two community projects on the go.
1. a community allotment
2. a games (boardgames, card games, wargames, rpgs if there is interest) club in the spare conference room at her offices.

The aim is to give people with limited social contact the space to meet others and do stuff.

A drop in community games cafe and store are what I would suggest for your spare shop space.

Pretty sure you wouldn't be short of volunteers to help out.
 
Classic Traveller

However, we could just not leave well enough alone, and some idle chatter led to a brand new project for Classic Traveller. Book 9: Pirate is the first official core release for Classic Traveller in, well, decades, and it will be appearing in both digital and print formats (identical to the original Little Black Books!) in 2025.
I am really excited about this. I hope it is given the full CT treatment. To me that means size, length, pricing, layout including color (specifically, lack of color). Upgraded art is a given. I really like the black and white interior with one accent color for maps and deck plans. That might not be "in" these days, but my age is showing. I purchased most of my CT collection from game stores when they came out.

-Swiftbrook
just my thoughts
 
Most excellent news.

One thing I am curious about is how you actually go about getting your books into brick and mortar stores. I popped over to London from Germany recently and was disappointed to find zero Traveller books in stock in the stores I looked. It appears mail order is not a problem, but physical shelfspace is rare these days.

Very happy to see that DGP is being looked at again. This was some of the best material from the Rebellion Era, I especially loved their SOM and their Alien adventures.
 
One thing I am curious about is how you actually go about getting your books into brick and mortar stores. I popped over to London from Germany recently and was disappointed to find zero Traveller books in stock in the stores I looked. It appears mail order is not a problem, but physical shelfspace is rare these days.
Distribution for RPGs is not... completely awesome these days. To give you an idea, two decades ago, more than 80% of all our sales were through distribution. Today, they are less than 10%, and we are by no means alone in this. We have spoken to other similar-sized publishers and they are seeing the same thing. There are several reasons for this, but much of it comes down to the fact that the distribution system is... not great.

Now, this is not all bad, not by a long shot. You have to sell two and a half books through distribution to match the revenue by selling one direct, and that is before you take into account the greater costs of selling via distribution (principally the printing costs of those two and a half books). Add to that, the likes of Traveller is more popular than it has been for years, and this is part of the reason why things are looking sunny for gaming companies at the moment.

Now, this is not stunning for your local retailer, obviously, and we do make efforts to support them. If a distributor steps up to the plate (as opposed to moving the core books, with the definition of 'core' being highly variable), then we will happily deal with them - a new distributor set themselves up earlier this year in the UK, but they are small at the moment and will take time to get properly going. We also deal with some retailers directly when they approach us. You will find us well represented in the likes of Leisure Games, Games Shop of Aldershot, and others. The same applies in North America, where retailers can deal directly with our warehouse on very good terms.

In a nutshell, the current system is not brilliant. We have found a way to survive that turbulence, as have other publishers, and we will deal with any retailer who approaches us... but things are not awesome for them.
 
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