Vincent791 said:
Yeah, I guess that's it, I'm used to D&D magic, and although I'm trying not to, I found myself looking for magic missiles and stuff like that in combat. Damn! Play that game for so long have closed my mind to other possibilities (but that can be fixed).
The thing is that I really want to use the Conan RPG magic system, do I have to use it out of combat? How often does magic take part on the adventures? How often in combat?
I know that it's a RPG and I can play the world and the rules as I want, but I'm asking this cause I have troubles with the jump from one system to the other.
Here is a post I made on
this thread that sort of answers your question (it is slightly modified from its original wording):
One of my joys of playing
Conan the RPG is that I get to see players figure out creative ways to solve a problem without the crutch of sorcery.
The thing I hated most about DnD was the
complete reliance of
everything on the magic system. Now my players think outside of the box and are a thousand times more creative because they do not have sorcery to fall back on as a crutch. The thing I love about
Conan the Roleplaying Game is that it successfully solved the magic reliance issue inherent in DnD. Player Characters live and die by their skills or lack of them.
And when magic enters the equation in
Conan, it usually just causes problems because it screws the natural balance - including game balance. I like that. The spells that really distance a person from humanity cause Corruption. I like that. In DnD, humanity does not matter - the game is full of half-breeds, non-human persons and whatnot. It is normal for an elf and a human to converse. In
Conan, such would be unnatural, therefore horrifying to humans. A half-breed would be particularly horrifying - his parents did something unnatural.
Raven's rules are great (and wonderfully imagined) if you want your Conan game to come closer to a DnD game. However, those rules miss the point of the RAW magic system, or at least they miss what I enjoy most about
Conan the Roleplaying Game and its magic system.
I think a lot of people balk at
Conan's magic system because they are too accustomed to the magic crutch offered by DnD and similar games. Suddenly, they are being asked to solve problems with limited technology and little to no magic as support. I think other players may balk because Conan's magic system forces them to decide if they are human or if they are willing to become something inhuman by exerting extreme power over other humans. These players are not understanding what
Conan is offering - freedom from a crutch and the power to walk proudly as person who can make his way in the world without artillery, but with only his or her skills and will power -and humanity.
Suddenly Players are asked to think harder and work harder to achieve goals that would be just a wizard or cleric spell away in DnD - including basic survival. Players must also ask themselves if they are human, or if they are they slipping away into something inhuman and distant (a non-concern in most RPGs).
Weather, starvation and natural obstacles suddenly have importance in
Conan the Roleplaying Game; these are things that are easily circumvented in DnD. Many DnD spells eliminated the need to have skills at all; why have ranks in Heal when you have Cure Light Wounds and similar spells? Why put ranks in Climb when you can Fly? So many magic items give +10 or more to various skills, making ranks in those skills pointless.
Conan spells generally do not do this.
I also like that
Conan does not have alignments. Sorry, but most people are not good all the time, nor are they always evil or neutral. Conan explores the human condition better that most RPGs, including magic. If I were to suddenly gain The Force, for example, I probably would turn inhuman - shoot, if someone cut me off while driving, I'd probably use The Force and shove them into a ditch! Conan's magic system reflects the inhumanizing aspect of seriously powerful magic better than most RPGs. Some call that "gritty" or "dark." I call that "human."
The question in
Conan is "Is the human spirit strong enough to win the day, or will it fall before the inhuman?"
The RAW magic system in
Conan the Roleplaying Game facilitates that question.
never sure if I pick an mix if it will not fall apart on me as has happen long time ago in my youth :evil: .ravens rules look great when I get the urge to go more advance will most likley nick them and bits from the cthulthu post she does but best I think at the moment too keep to the rules so both me and my players are happy before or if I change 8)
