Vehicle Creation System (TM)?

[Kilgs]

So is this only going to be available in Hammer's Slammers?

 

[Sylvre Phire]

No. From what I've read on the forums, there's a technical system in the works along the lines of Fire, Fusion & Steel.

I'm right there with you. Patience may be a virtue, but it's not my virtue. :lol:

Pax et bonum,

Dale Meier
Creative Director
Hell Creek Sanitarium
Omaha, NE

 

[Colin]

One may suspect that a vehicle design system may very well show up in one of the upcoming vehicle books. Just a thought.

 

[alex_greene]

Until then, we'll have to extrapolate from the existing vehicle stats in the core book and other sourcebooks.

 

[GypsyComet]

Until then, we'll have to extrapolate from the existing vehicle stats in the core book and other sourcebooks.

[voice="rockytheflyingsquirrel"]
"But that trick *never* works."
[/voice]

 

[Infojunky]

Until then, we'll have to extrapolate from the existing vehicle stats in the core book and other sourcebooks.

Actually the Core-book and Mercenary are useless for this, there are no masses or sizes for vehicles in it. Scout is the only book so far that has enough to build a rough standard.

All I need is some Ball park numbers and I'm golden. I have at least three systems that I can steal from if I need specific numbers....

Really all I need is the hull/structure bits the rest isn't really a problem....

 

[drnuncheon]

Whatever CT system is floating around will probably be close enough until the real thing comes out.

From the main book we know an air/raft bay is 4 dtons and an ATV bay is 10 dtons, so we have upper limits on their size. Auxiliary craft don't seem to take up any extra space beyond their actual volume, so it's probably fair to say that the same is true for vehicle bays (and High Guard bears that out).

A starship has 1 Hull and 1 Structure per 50 tons displacement - it looks about right to say that a vehicle has 1 hull & 1 structure per 2 tons displacement.

 

[GypsyComet]

Whatever CT system is floating around will probably be close enough until the real thing comes out.

Striker and the MT system are siblings, while the first FF&S is a kissing cousin.

 

[Infojunky]

Whatever CT system is floating around will probably be close enough until the real thing comes out.

Striker and the MT system are siblings, while the first FF&S is a kissing cousin.

FF&S is more like the legitimate child of Striker while MT was the redheaded bastard....

 

[alex_greene]

Until then, we'll have to extrapolate from the existing vehicle stats in the core book and other sourcebooks.

Actually the Core-book and Mercenary are useless for this, there are no masses or sizes for vehicles in it. Scout is the only book so far that has enough to build a rough standard.

All I need is some Ball park numbers and I'm golden. I have at least three systems that I can steal from if I need specific numbers....

Really all I need is the hull/structure bits the rest isn't really a problem....

The masses of the ATV and Air/Raft are listed, not in the vehicles section, but in the Vehicles and Drones table on p. 111 of the core book, under the spacecraft design section.

But you're right. The only vehicle table to give the masses of vehicles is in Scout.

I think that each of the vehicles listed so far, from the Air/Raft and GCarrier in the core book to the Unicopter and Mariner in Scout, should really be given the onceover with the vehicle design system once it's been set up.

 

[GypsyComet]

Really all I need is the hull/structure bits the rest isn't really a problem....

The masses of the ATV and Air/Raft are listed, not in the vehicles section, but in the Vehicles and Drones table on p. 111 of the core book, under the spacecraft design section.

Except that those are too easily interpreted as stowage volumes, not actual vehicle masses or volumes.

 

[Infojunky]

Really all I need is the hull/structure bits the rest isn't really a problem....

The masses of the ATV and Air/Raft are listed, not in the vehicles section, but in the Vehicles and Drones table on p. 111 of the core book, under the spacecraft design section.

Except that those are too easily interpreted as stowage volumes, not actual vehicle masses or volumes.

I'll take what they give, and apply liberally.... Ballpark is all I am asking... Besides have given us any volume? Or I mean any consistent scale will do..

 

[alex_greene]

The Air/Raft and ATV tonnages have been set at 4 tons and 10 tons respectively since early CT days.

*sigh* I should've gone over my damned LBBs when I had the chance to, shouldn't I? *facepalm*

 

[GypsyComet]

The Air/Raft and ATV tonnages have been set at 4 tons and 10 tons respectively since early CT days.

I'm aware [waves his 1977 edition LBBs]. The conflation occured very early.

But no picture of the Air/Raft has *ever* depicted it at 4 dtons. It's always been shown as a half-height open barge. If that height is taken to 4 dtons, then the Air/Raft should be about 20 feet square, possibly larger.

On the other hand, the old CT depiction of the ATV is more like 15 dtons, being closely modeled from a certain SF motor home then fed on steroids.

 

[Mongoose Si]

One may suspect that a vehicle design system may very well show up in one of the upcoming vehicle books. Just a thought.

Correct. The Civilian Vehicles and Military Vehicles books will include the vehicle design system. I will be starting work on these books next month I'm not sure of the exact release date but I think they will be out later this year.

 

[AndrewW]

Correct. The Civilian Vehicles and Military Vehicles books will include the vehicle design system. I will be starting work on these books next month I'm not sure of the exact release date but I think they will be out later this year.

Supplement 5: Civilian Vehicles July 2009
Supplement 6: Military Vehicles September 2009

Sure looks like it:

Including a complete vehicle creation system, Civilian Vehicles is a ready reference for any Traveller needing to get from A to B in the fastest/classiest/safest way possible – take your pick! From primitive ground cars to the most advanced skimmers, this book is a complete catalogue of vehicles found in civilian hands.

Sometimes battle dress is just not enough. Upgrading the vehicle creation system from Civilian Vehicles, Military Vehicles gives you the armour and weaponry you need for mass destruction. From simple scout skimmers to heavy self-propelled guns, to giant walking mecha, Military Vehicles contains everything a Traveller needs for self-defence on the road, in the wilderness and in the skies.

 

[rust]

Supplement 5: Civilian Vehicles July 2009

Including a complete vehicle creation system, Civilian Vehicles is a ready reference for any Traveller needing to get from A to B in the fastest/classiest/safest way possible – take your pick! From primitive ground cars to the most advanced skimmers, this book is a complete catalogue of vehicles found in civilian hands.

Good news - very good news, indeed.

 

[AndrewW]

Good news - very good news, indeed.

That it is.

 

[alex_greene]

OMG.

Mecha.

Did he say Mecha?

 

[alex_greene]

Can we get a list of the weights of the existing vehicles from the core rulebook and Mercenary anyway printed here or in an erratum, to start with?