Droynes outside of Droyne society (M2e)

[Sigtrygg]

It also completely ignores all previous canon on the subject.

The ACS2 write up of Droyne is too revealing of Droyne-Ancient links compared to the original 1105 information on them.

Andit is "a" history of the Droyne, not "the" history of the Droyne.

Every version has some things in common.

They were TL10 when the Ancients came on the scene

They lost the ability to caste until the mysterious event that spread coynes to Droyne worlds thousands of years ago.

GT was written by a fan base of authors who wanted definitive information, not loosey goosey stuff.

Don's Mongoose Droyne Alien book may still exist in some form...

 

[rinku]

"Species" isn't exactly a black and white definition anyway, just a handly label for discussion. There are many populations of creatures that can interbreed but don't, or which only breed under exceptional conditions. In human terms, one lot just aren't attracted to the other lot.

On the other hand, many plants are more than happy to hybridise with each other.

There's a lot of grey area, and new observations and experiments often shift how species are assessed. The various hominid groupings are at best provisional.

 

[MasterGwydion]

Personally, I think they need to completely redo the entire taxonomic system using only DNA as a reference point. Then they would actually be more accurate.

 

[rinku]

Won't work entirely. Too many cases of near identical DNA that won't or can't breed. And you need to sort out the plants and bacteria by different means since a lot of those can hybridise.

But it's a valid starting point.

 

[Fluffy Bunny Feet]

Personally, I think they need to completely redo the entire taxonomic system using only DNA as a reference point. Then they would actually be more accurate.

Not enough of the species are on record for DNA. Many are too old for DNA and others were in environments where DNA doesn't survive long.

 

[MasterGwydion]

Won't work entirely. Too many cases of near identical DNA that won't or can't breed. And you need to sort out the plants and bacteria by different means since a lot of those can hybridise.

But it's a valid starting point.

That just means that We are not smart enough to do it yet or you haven't spent enough time researching family trees in West Virginia, USA...lol

 

[GypsyComet]

You mean like everything in Charted Space? Just out of curiosity, is anything written in published material, that is actually an out-of-universe source for Charted Space? In-universe sources are great for story for the players but are bad for the setting when you have no sources that are actually definitive.

Traveller has always liked its in-universe delivery for information, if only because that itself adds to the setting. Some statements within that data have more objective weight than others, however. Notably, some have gained or lost perceived objectivity over time, such as the early statement about the number of minor Human races in Charted Space.

The fact that you recognized most information here as "in universe" makes the Mongoose Drift easier to handle, not harder. Some puffed up local Xenologist makes statements that colleagues two sectors away know, or "know", are incorrect.

 

[MasterGwydion]

Traveller has always liked its in-universe delivery for information, if only because that itself adds to the setting. Some statements within that data have more objective weight than others, however. Notably, some have gained or lost perceived objectivity over time, such as the early statement about the number of minor Human races in Charted Space.

The fact that you recognized most information here as "in universe" makes the Mongoose Drift easier to handle, not harder. Some puffed up local Xenologist makes statements that colleagues two sectors away know, or "know", are incorrect.

Which is great for PCs in the setting, but nearly useless for Referees actually trying to figure out setting.