Railgun barbete

[wbnc]

I see the ammunition costs for the railgun barbette listed. However under the barbette weapons I do not see it listed, or described.

also is there plans for a turret mounted version of the rial gun?

 

[AndrewW]

I see the ammunition costs for the railgun barbette listed. However under the barbette weapons I do not see it listed, or described.

Leftover, it was there but is being moved to the 'High' Technology section.

 

[wbnc]

Ah, alrighty. I just couldn't find them in the main section, or high tech section.

 

[AndrewW]

Ah, alrighty. I just couldn't find them in the main section, or high tech section.

There's more stuff that needs to be added to that section.

 

[wbnc]

Ah, alrighty. I just couldn't find them in the main section, or high tech section.

There's more stuff that needs to be added to that section.

thats the assumption i was working under

 

[cliffbates65]

I see the ammunition costs for the railgun barbette listed. However under the barbette weapons I do not see it listed, or described.

Leftover, it was there but is being moved to the 'High' Technology section.

I don't see why. I mean if mass driver/Gauss weapons become man portable rifles and assult rifles by tl 12, that mean by they are heavy ordnance launcher from the ground and space by TL 8 available, but definitely by tl-9 as main and secondary weapons. By tl-11 larger gauss style item would be used as a Barbette shooting 30cm slugs and nukes larger ships at mid range space and smaller turrets with a guass gatling shooting huge numbers of 5cm slug or HEAP or shaped plasma at Tl14 at short range to KO/Kill missles and small craft attack and fighters targeting the ship.. as its AA/AM base putting up flack. This will really help sandcasters (and Traveller retains them) deal with missiles.

 

[FallingPhoenix]

I see the ammunition costs for the railgun barbette listed. However under the barbette weapons I do not see it listed, or described.

Leftover, it was there but is being moved to the 'High' Technology section.

I don't see why. I mean if mass driver/Gauss weapons become man portable rifles and assult rifles by tl 12, that mean by they are heavy ordnance launcher from the ground and space by TL 8 available, but definitely by tl-9 as main and secondary weapons. By tl-11 larger gauss style item would be used as a Barbette shooting 30cm slugs and nukes larger ships at mid range space and smaller turrets with a guass gatling shooting huge numbers of 5cm slug or HEAP or shaped plasma at Tl14 at short range to KO/Kill missles and small craft attack and fighters targeting the ship.. as its AA/AM base putting up flack. This will really help sandcasters (and Traveller retains them) deal with missiles.

Actually, I think it's because railgun turrets/barbettes were declared 'non-canon' and the High Technology chapter is the repository for important space stuff that doesn't fit in the 3I.

 

[AndrewW]

Actually, I think it's because railgun turrets/barbettes were declared 'non-canon' and the High Technology chapter is the repository for important space stuff that doesn't fit in the 3I.

Yup. Really should be Alternate Technology rather then High Technology...

 

[cliffbates65]

I don't see why. I mean if mass driver/Gauss weapons become man portable rifles and assult rifles by tl 12, that mean by they are heavy ordnance launcher from the ground and space by TL 8 available, but definitely by tl-9 as main and secondary weapons. By tl-11 larger gauss style item would be used as a Barbette shooting 30cm slugs and nukes larger ships at mid range space and smaller turrets with a guass gatling shooting huge numbers of 5cm slug or HEAP or shaped plasma at Tl14 at short range to KO/Kill missles and small craft attack and fighters targeting the ship.. as its AA/AM base putting up flack. This will really help sandcasters (and Traveller retains them) deal with missiles.

Actually, I think it's because railgun turrets/barbettes were declared 'non-canon' and the High Technology chapter is the repository for important space stuff that doesn't fit in the 3I.

But in T5 rail guns exist for lower tech level situations. And the exclusion of them might have been culural more than anything else. Sandcasters also at one level looks like a gauss rail launcher of a sought. Look at Orbital and its dicussion of space weapons at TL8-9. One could argue that contact with the Vilani who J2 PA weapon with long range missles as 2nd level primaries vs Terran's who at first rather disunified but centrally unify opted for energy weapon options and invent the meson and redefine the space battlefield my 5th or 7th IW.

 

[madmike]

Looking at it, railguns (both barbette and bay mounts) ought to be TL9 not 12. I also note that ammo has reduced from 20 projectiles per tonne to just 8 projectiles per tonne for barbettes.

So HG 2e now scales up the size of the railgun projectile based on the bay size rather than making a bay throw more shots the larger the bay gets.

No option for greater firepower as opposed to scaling size of projectiles?

 

[Condottiere]

Armour became denser, you could make the bullets out of something more compact than bonded superdense.

 

[wbnc]

I think the concept for the new ammo tonnage is that it isn't counting individual projectiles. it's counting "Shots", each time the weapon fires it's firing off multiple projectiles in rapid accession.

 

[madmike]

If that is the case and I agree it may well be, then it needs to be clearly specified. the table for mass drivers and rail guns is unclear.

How many projectiles per tonne for the different bay sizes (and perhaps the barbette - 8 projectiles per tonne)?

Spell it out as per the missile bay description.

 

[Condottiere]

If that's the case, you can mix bullet composition.

 

[madmike]

So based on the current HG railgun table, a large bay fires 10 tonnes of projectiles per auto 12 attack

Given internal storage of 12 attacks worth of projectiles that 500 tonne bay can store;

10 tonnes (12 projectiles) x 12 attacks = 120 tonnes

Oh well, it is a missile storage thing. I am fine with that.