Brakiri/Abbai Brivoki Advanced Warship makeover

[Abraxas]

Well, I have to admit I wouldn't mind seeing chaos0xomega's with some clean up... My only criticizm would be those green horns in the front. It's fine to have a Brakiri "hammer head" but don't give it horns... and maybe the hull is just a BIT too skinney... but this is just peronal preference.

I like alien027's I just don't think there is enough distinction between the original Coraumi and the new Armagedden ship. Sorry.

Either way, BOTH ships look better than the original Brivoki... so now the only question is, who are we going to get to build this sucker?

 

[Silvereye]

@chaos0xomega

Interesting sketch and great for ideas, but it looks too extended.

Based on your sketches, move the read area back and incorporate it into the gun wings that have been added to the basic Corumai design. Make the existing Corumai nose into a hammerhead without building it up too much. Perhaps add a vertical Brakiri vane instead of the grey area. A fin for the fishy theme.

I'll try and attempt to draw this later (I only have Paint to play with though...)

 

[Ripple]

Lots of stats around.

I do not think an armageddon level ship that has to get to medium range (15-20) is a very strong contender. Give the ship lances, twin linked bolters like the Juyaca is supposed to have, a combat laser like Daves (maybe a turreted range 15 one) and the antifighter system from the Brakiri.

For advanced defenses it should have silly interceptors like the Lakara.

For image I wish they had taken a Bimith and lowered a n avioki vertical hull through it. Have the pipes that support the Avioki main hull angle down to the wings of the Bimith hull. Just remove the scallop like engines from the bimith and have it meld directly into the Avioki upright. Do not have the computer savy to put up an image.

ripple

 

[chaos0xomega]

I like alien027's I just don't think there is enough distinction between the original Coraumi and the new Armagedden ship. Sorry.

That is my ship :wink:

Well, I have to admit I wouldn't mind seeing chaos0xomega's with some clean up... My only criticizm would be those green horns in the front. It's fine to have a Brakiri "hammer head" but don't give it horns... and maybe the hull is just a BIT too skinney... but this is just peronal preference.

Well, horns isn't what I was going for, if you read the litter colored notes, you will see that the green horns are supposed to represent the Abbai Bimith Defender forward bridge element stuff. I am sure someone could mod the front of the ship to look better then how I did it, but like I said I suck. Personally I am thinking that instead of the two horns in the center of it, perhaps enlarge the divot or whatever you want to call it that they are in, and put the abbai bimith defender bridge stuff in there(like sticking out a bit).

And yeah, it is a bit skinny, but it only needs to be fattened up a teeny-weeny bit.

Alien - THAT is EXACTLY how I planned it to look! Except for the horns at the front, it looks like a bull :wink: , someone needs to fix that.

Based on your sketches, move the read area back and incorporate it into the gun wings that have been added to the basic Corumai design. Make the existing Corumai nose into a hammerhead without building it up too much. Perhaps add a vertical Brakiri vane instead of the grey area. A fin for the fishy theme.

Yeah, I tried doing the gun wing thing, but didn't like the look of it. But I do like teh idea of making the existing nose into a hammerhead. Perhaps instead though, we can just pull back the front a bit so that it doesn't stick out so far? I actually kind of like the grey area(it adds a bit more to the rear of the ship) but what do you mean by brakiri vane? Do you mean like the thing underneath it, with like 'subwoofers' in it or whatever(like on the bravioki)? IF so, then I think that is a brilliant idea! If not, explain?

I will try a updated design maybe tomorrow, but in the meantime, if locarno would like to try his hand at my mods with his more professional tools & skills, that would be great. I am curious what it would really look like.

 

[CZuschlag]

Armageddon is worth 2 War. Just thinking about that means that sick and disgusting is what we're going for. Remember, this thing is supposed to be a match for the Adira!

So, if we're doing that, Davesaint, I think AP for that beam is mandatory. I also agree with Ripple, this should be about range 24. Some of that beam should be aft, however ... perhaps 4 dice of it? Considering how often it will be outnumbered, that beam back there will be good for something. Actually, this may be a better job for the crit-fishing Combat Laser, now that I think about it.....

You may also want to split the Grav Beam system into two -- that way the beam dice can be split more easily into multiple targets, instead of being forced to shoot at one. 6 beam dice together should still be able to scare the Drakh...

A cluster of lances would be good. Perhaps .... 6? A very nasty system to add.

Include Gravitic Shifters. 2, range 10. Say, a 4-die system. Arrange them as you wish.

Gravitic Mines. Two launchers, fore and after. Minumum 6-die system each. Antifighter to the extreme.

1 Turreted Comm Disruptor system. Preferably medium range.

And, to be vile -- special rule, bankable interceptor pool, just like bases. Nasty!

And this is from the guy preaching restraint in ship design! Remember, it should put some fear into 32 Hermes with Flash Missiles!

 

[Morgoth]

Really like your designs alien, this looks a lot nicer than the box thing we are supposed to use, I would like to see a piece for this too once we know how big the armageddon ships are going to be.

Chaos - some good ideas there and I would like to see the next phase in the design.

Nice to see ships with a bit more imagination and some nice lines instead of a "collection of speakers" with fins stuck to it!!!

 

[Silvereye]

OK, been busy with the graphics manglers, as the description for earlier. I have not tweaked the side view for the Abbai hull style, I'll let someone more competent do that if they fancy, but I did add a Brakiri style dorsal fin.

Basically, replace the rounded sides and struts of normal Brakiri vessels with the scalloped effect of Abbai hulls (like bits of the Milani and Bimith).

You caould also possibly remove the smal ventral Brakiri tailfin, and mirror the dorsal Abbai one. Arranging in an >--< type configuration?

-Edit-
Added the x-style tail idea.

 

[Burger]

It's Thunderbird 2!!!
:lol:

 

[Silvereye]

Where?

LBH has already been there and done this....

 

[Morgoth]

like the scalloping for the Abbai version but feel that the hammerhead is just a little too big,

 

[Silvereye]

Me too, but it was the best I gould do. Anyone competent should get the idea what I was aiming for. The Abbai are also into the arching support struts, so perhaps an Abbai style could be applied to the ventral one that leads to the large Brakiri fin, and diverts to the weapon pods.

I'm used to using trackballs not mice, and amouse was attached to the computer.

 

[Morgoth]

right gotcha Just be nice to see any of these instead of the lack of imagination flying stero thats available. I don't think that the Abbai and Brakari ships should be too different from each other though as it is a joint venture, there should be enough to make you think of that race. I also like the basic form of the Corumai its just a nice ship to work from, so much more athestically pleasing than other ships in the league.

 

[Silvereye]

Its something that was right with the Brakiri, they were very nice looking ships. I guess the Shadows got jealous and decided to invade.

 

[chaos0xomega]

Silvereye, can you describe what you did a bit better? I tried making a side view, but couldn't figure it out, where does the scalloping and stuff go?

 

[Silvereye]

OK, if you assume the side of a normal Brakiri ship is kind of ( shaped, a smooth curve. What I tried to do was make it more angular shape < instead. The 'Scalloping' is probably a bit of an odd description, but if you can imagine the way a scallop shell has lots of lines running from the centre to the edge (ignoring the up and own bits). Kind of like the 'wings' of the Bimith, only filled back to the hull.

What I was aiming for is a more Abbai look to the edge of the ship.

I'll have another got at drawing with a mouse later. Or I could sketch it and scan it, which might work better....

 

[locarno24]

Ok....thinned the hull, slightly rejigged the tail, and added a mandible/hammerhead.

Didn't put on a dorsal fin as I'm not a massive fan of the look - I think it looks cleaner with just the ridge on the spine, and the brakiri fins below the hull.

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[Nomad]

Looks very good! I'd like one of these (and an unmodified vanilla Corumai as well).

 

[locarno24]

Weapons wise - abbai tend to be massively armed in every direction - suppose it gets a shedload of quad batteries then a gravetic lance and some mine launchers on the prow and flanks (broadside mines? that'll get a carrier's attention..)....probably no combat laser as the Abbai seem to bemoving away from it as a weapon (the biith being the most recent ship...)

defence wise, hull 6 (brakiri capital ship..)
shedloads of advanced (i.e. counts as a station?) interceptor....

In fact......suppose it's absolutely massive: maybe make it count as a mobile station to all intents and purposes...a defence network, targets 2 or 3?

16 twin-linked quads with targets 3? you don't wanna get in range of that...

 

[alien027]

Ok....thinned the hull, slightly rejigged the tail, and added a mandible/hammerhead.

Didn't put on a dorsal fin as I'm not a massive fan of the look - I think it looks cleaner with just the ridge on the spine, and the brakiri fins below the hull.

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Ireally like your new desing. But just to be sure than everyone saw all the desing.

This are great ideas, anyone has another? soon when everyone finnish with all ideas, I will set a poll to see who is the winner. And I hope than the Mogoose are lissent to the ideas, will be good to have a ship desing from the poeple from the forum.

 

[Silvereye]

Will try the pen, paper and scanner approach, see if I can get my design looking less like Andy age 4 wiv Crayonz (tm).

Is there an isometric and/or front and/or rear aspect views kicking around on the 'net?