BF Evo, future weapons

I was actually talking about using the C-RAM.... I'd be inclined to send as many arachnids as possible at it from all angles,,, overwhelm it with targets!
 
Gibbs said:
I was actually talking about using the C-RAM.... I'd be inclined to send as many arachnids as possible at it from all angles,,, overwhelm it with targets!

I was going to use the Bugs as the only way the unit could be approached safely and that would be by tunnelling. :wink:
 
Gibbs said:
Unless you put it on some sort of hover platform... then you'd be in trouble. :wink:

Yeah, "checkmate". Then you run back to the drawing board and give high priority to developing laser weapons. :wink:
 
BuShips said:
Gibbs said:
Unless you put it on some sort of hover platform... then you'd be in trouble. :wink:

Yeah, "checkmate". Then you run back to the drawing board and give high priority to developing laser weapons. :wink:

Then deflector shields for your hovering C-RAM (wink)
 
Gibbs said:
BuShips said:
Gibbs said:
Unless you put it on some sort of hover platform... then you'd be in trouble. :wink:

Yeah, "checkmate". Then you run back to the drawing board and give high priority to developing laser weapons. :wink:

Then deflector shields for your hovering C-RAM (wink)

Yeah, weapons development is sure a chess game, isn't it? The RPG-29V, AT-13 and AT-14 has two explosive charges. The first is meant to trigger the reactive armor so that the second can have a chance to penetrate the vehicle's armor. What's next, "double-layered reactive armor", with the arabic label "So there!" screen-printed on it? :lol:

Oh, and the counter to your deflector shield is a "frequency-scanning penetrating laser".

Your counter to that would no doubt be a "frequency-scanner jammer", ad infinitum :roll: :wink:.
 
BuShips said:
What's next, "double-layered reactive armor", with the arabic label "So there!" screen-printed on it? :lol:
The next thing is reactive armor covered in thick armor of its own - it protects the ERA from detonating after being fired at with hmgs and autocannons as well as lowers the chance of the ERA block being detonated by precursor charge (which is usually much smaller than the main warhead). In fact this "next thing" has been around for a few years in some countries, which rely on ERA a little bit more than US...
 
Pietia said:
BuShips said:
What's next, "double-layered reactive armor", with the arabic label "So there!" screen-printed on it? :lol:
The next thing is reactive armor covered in thick armor of its own - it protects the ERA from detonating after being fired at with hmgs and autocannons as well as lowers the chance of the ERA block being detonated by precursor charge (which is usually much smaller than the main warhead). In fact this "next thing" has been around for a few years in some countries, which rely on ERA a little bit more than US...

OK, I've heard of armored ERA, intended to stop MG and auto-cannon fire from detonating the ERA but wasn't thinking of it as a counter to say a Kornet's tandem charge. Interesting. So the counter to that might be a rapid-firing RPG that had multiple rounds (think of a hand-fired Katyusha, lol)) or even a special version of an anti-tank weapon that was used by several personal and launch tubes but networked to fire at a specific point with a staggered delay. This would be like a boxer that hits an opponent repeatedly with successive blows. Has anyone thought of that one yet? :idea: :wink:
 
Here's my name for that, if made by the Chinese:

Special Optically - Laser Ordnance Network Guided (SO-LONG) :wink:.

If made by the U.S.:

Guided Optically Targeted Counter Heavy Armor (GOTCHA) :lol:.
 
BuShips said:
OK, I've heard of armored ERA, intended to stop MG and auto-cannon fire from detonating the ERA but wasn't thinking of it as a counter to say a Kornet's tandem charge. Interesting.
The tests of Erawa-2 (Polish ERA) and the modern Russian ERAs proved that it is possible. Of course this is not the only thing - the individual ERA block is better shaped and has several more improvements. Oh - and the armor gets scratched a little bit anyway, putting this on a Stryker would not make sense (but it does on a front or side armor of a tank).

BuShips said:
So the counter to that might be a rapid-firing RPG that had multiple rounds (think of a hand-fired Katyusha, lol)) or even a special version of an anti-tank weapon that was used by several personal and launch tubes but networked to fire at a specific point with a staggered delay. This would be like a boxer that hits an opponent repeatedly with successive blows. Has anyone thought of that one yet? :idea: :wink:
More or less, but without the networked part. In the latest conflict Hezbollach troops used "swarm tactics" to defeat Israeli armor. They fired several RPGs (from ambush) simultaneously, a few aimed at each side of the tank. Similar tactics were used by Chechen rebels to take out ERA-protected russian tanks in Grozny.
 
Remember if you cannot see it, you cannot hit it...!!!

Stealth is the word..

" Now where did i park that tank of mine "....
 
Pietia said:
BuShips said:
OK, I've heard of armored ERA, intended to stop MG and auto-cannon fire from detonating the ERA but wasn't thinking of it as a counter to say a Kornet's tandem charge. Interesting.
The tests of Erawa-2 (Polish ERA) and the modern Russian ERAs proved that it is possible. Of course this is not the only thing - the individual ERA block is better shaped and has several more improvements. Oh - and the armor gets scratched a little bit anyway, putting this on a Stryker would not make sense (but it does on a front or side armor of a tank).

BuShips said:
So the counter to that might be a rapid-firing RPG that had multiple rounds (think of a hand-fired Katyusha, lol)) or even a special version of an anti-tank weapon that was used by several personal and launch tubes but networked to fire at a specific point with a staggered delay. This would be like a boxer that hits an opponent repeatedly with successive blows. Has anyone thought of that one yet? :idea: :wink:
More or less, but without the networked part. In the latest conflict Hezbollach troops used "swarm tactics" to defeat Israeli armor. They fired several RPGs (from ambush) simultaneously, a few aimed at each side of the tank. Similar tactics were used by Chechen rebels to take out ERA-protected russian tanks in Grozny.

Thanks, it really gets convoluted, doesn't it? :wink: Btw, I meant "personnel" and not "personal" before, as I'm sure you saw. OK, "SWARM" mode? So I wasn't so far off using Bug tactics, was I? :lol:
 
More or less, but without the networked part. In the latest conflict Hezbollach troops used "swarm tactics" to defeat Israeli armor. They fired several RPGs (from ambush) simultaneously, a few aimed at each side of the tank. Similar tactics were used by Chechen rebels to take out ERA-protected russian tanks in Grozny.

Wonderful, Napoleonic-era volley fire is now back in fashion, but this time done by RPG's and LAWs!! :shock:
 
soulman said:
Remember if you cannot see it, you cannot hit it...!!!

Stealth is the word..

" Now where did i park that tank of mine "....

You didn't learn Capt. Kirk's warning in ST4 when he said "Everybody remember where we parked."
:wink:
 
The PLA get the FAV, I want these for my Marines:
400px-Desert_Patrol_Vehicle.jpg
 
Sgt. Brassones said:
The PLA get the FAV, I want these for my Marines:
400px-Desert_Patrol_Vehicle.jpg

I second that motion! I want groups of three. First, it matches up with the Technicals and second, I want to have a near-future version of the RAT PATROL! (only old farts need laugh). :wink:
 
The Old Soldier said:
Great, now you got that theme song from the TV show going around inside me head.... :? :lol:

Yuppers, and it fits too, lol. The first time I saw those rigs (was it the first Gulf War?) I did a flashback to the 60's and that old show. I remember it in the traditions of Combat! and 12 O'clock High. 8) Until I do get some of them, I'll have to do with a few of the open-topped Humvee gun trucks. :wink:
 
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