BF Evo, future weapons

[Hiromoon]

Let's see...

Land Warrior - 16 lbs

Historical loadouts:

WW1 French infantry - 85 lbs
French Foreign Legion during the North African campaigns - 100 lbs

WW2 British infantry - 70 - 90 lbs

1983 Grenada Campaign, US Rangers - 167 lbs

Current US Soldier loadout - nearly 80 lbs. That's with body armor, weapon, ammo, and other equipment, and excluding Land Warrior.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1992/EWL.htm

From a study (man, we're really good at studies it seems):

A fighting load is everything worn or carried except a rucksack and should be held to less than 48 pounds, according to the field manual. The next level, approach march load, adds a light rucksack and should not exceed 72 pounds. In the worst-case scenario, emergency approach march loads require a larger rucksack, raising the total weight to 120-150 pounds.

Given that the body armor can weigh anywhere between 15.7 lbs to 23.9 lbs? Yeah, that's half your combat weight right there.

And of course:

After reviewing the data, the average rifleman's fighting load was 63 pounds, which meant he was carrying on average 36 percent of his body weight before strapping on a rucksack. The average approach march load was 96 pounds or 55 percent of average rifleman's body weight, and the emergency approach march load average was 127 pounds or 71 percent of average rifleman's body weight.

http://www.rdecom.army.mil/rdemagazine/200403/itl_nsc_combat.html

 

[Gibbs]

You missed out the additional 12 pounds of weight added by the mud in ww1!

 

[Hiromoon]

Mud's optional.

 

[Mr Evil]

many soldiers reduce the weight of their body armour by removing the back panels

 

[BuShips]

many soldiers reduce the weight of their body armour by removing the back panels

Which gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "I've got your back". :lol:

 

[Gibbs]

Mud's optional.

No, no it wasn't. Unless you were general staff you were forced to have the mud or you were shot for cowardice. No mud equals not at the front line :wink: :lol:

 

[Hiromoon]

Depends on which front line. I don't think there was that much mud up in the Alps...

 

[Gibbs]

Did you mention the Austrians and the Italians?

The French and the British certainly didn't. :wink:

 

[emperorpenguin]

Depends on which front line. I don't think there was that much mud up in the Alps...

there is when it rains! :wink:

 

[BuShips]

Depends on which front line. I don't think there was that much mud up in the Alps...

there is when it rains! :wink:

That would depend on if you were above or were below the snow line :wink:.

 

[emperorpenguin]

the battles weren't fought in cable cars and on the slopes of Kloisters :lol:

 

[Gibbs]

No they weren't but they were above the snow line. they actually built trenches in the snow and lifted artillery up the cliffs. It was cold and it was bloody. They did fight in the snow.

 

[RusVal]

No they weren't but they were above the snow line. they actually built trenches in the snow and lifted artillery up the cliffs. It was cold and it was bloody. They did fight in the snow.

I would think that they would occasionally be forced to use the most advanced piece of military hardware in those conditions. Namely, snowballs with rocks in 'em. :lol:

 

[Gibbs]

And flamethrowers!

 

[Hiromoon]

Speaking of military snowball fights...

A group of US Army and US Marines were having a snowball fight on a hill near the Korean DMZ when they heard a noise, and the ground started rumbling.

Then, over the crest of the hill comes a 52 flying low with it's bomb bay doors open.

A little hint I guess, but the Marine telling me the story said that they knew who won that fight. GO AIRFORCE!

 

[Gibbs]

Speaking of military snowball fights...

A group of US Army and US Marines were having a snowball fight on a hill near the Korean DMZ when they heard a noise, and the ground started rumbling.

Then, over the crest of the hill comes a 52 flying low with it's bomb bay doors open.

A little hint I guess, but the Marine telling me the story said that they knew who won that fight. GO AIRFORCE!

:lol:

Quite frankly I consider that to be cheating. None of the Army/Marines were using their equipment, they weren't firing snow bullets from their weapons. Why should the airforce get to use their technology?

In fact you could say that they were wusses for not wanting to get their hands dirty! :lol:

 

[Hiromoon]

Dude, it could have been worse. Airmen are quite willing to pack a bomb bay full of snow....

Imagine that.. Rumble and FWOOOOSH

 

[Gibbs]

Dude, it could have been worse. Airmen are quite willing to pack a bomb bay full of snow....

Imagine that.. Rumble and FWOOOOSH

I thought that they did. that's what I expected when you said bomb bay doors open!

 

[Hiromoon]

Ah...well, wouldn't that have been amusing? I mentioned that to my Marine friend, and he tells me that would have probably killed more than a few people on that hill...

 

[Gibbs]

That's a point. Hadn't actually thought of that one. Imagine having to tell someone's family that the reason their son/husband died was that the was killed in a snowball fight. How upsetting would that be?

Good to see the air force had some sense.