Two aspects of Darrian history that always kind of bugged me

rust said:
I suspect that it would be easier to skip the intermediate tech and move right to the high tech. For example, I am not convinced that vacuum tubes would be necessary to produce replacements for the electronics destroyed by an EMP.

In some cases, yes, it might be easier to skip. FREX, knowing how to build a transistor means you can skip developing vacuum tubes in the case of logic circuits.

But that's not necessarily so with other uses. Take my previous mention of LCD flat screens - if you lose the equipment capable of building those high density circuits, you're probably going to have to go back to vacuum tubes to build CRTs, at least until you can rebuild your machines for making the flat screens. Likewise for high power transmitter circuits.

Further more, dissemination of information and utilization of knowledge becomes harder the more the infrastructure is damaged. Bob in San Francisco might now everything there is to know about making transistors, but if the factories and equipment to do so are in Dallas and Beijing, putting his knowledge to use might wind up being difficult.

As technology allows more and more of us to work via telecommuting, the gap seprating knowledge from the locations best equipped to exploit that knowledge will grow.

As I see, right now we're still ok. But as computers are used more and more in both our everday lives and the process of innovating new technology, the more and more likely it is that intermediate steps that are required will end up being lost. Not a problem if nothing happens on a global or larger scale, but a huge problem if something like that does.
 
We would certainly crash, but I'm not so convinced it would take as long to recover as many have suggested. The EMP isn't going to affect the mostly optical and paper store of knowledge, so we won't have to reinvent these technologies, just rebuild them. It only took 20 years to move from valve tech to microchips originally - I'd predict only a few years before *someone* got manufacturing of chips back on line. You may still have large areas waiting to have their copper wiring to be replaced and widespread starvation and chaos, but priority tech will get priority attention. It may be a fascist military government that *does* so, but someone will get there.
 
Key areas could be up again within days. Its a matter of priority.
Where do you need the industrial generators you can get working, where do you transport the supplies to etc.

The recovery time is for the world as a whole. Your interim goverment which will most likely maintain order by force can have its new HQ with power and working computers within a very short period.

Its everyone else that is in trouble :twisted:

As we stand now we are on the tech level cusp so to speak, we still have a lot of old fashioned printed stuff, hell you can buy victorian steam train manuals and farming guides from old book shops. Give it a generation and these will be gone.

The existing books we have now can be used to rebuild on a small scale but a local library with one copy of an engineering guide or a DIY electrical manual will not help hundreds of rebuilding projects. The mention a few replies ago about people on pedal bikes going from the repair jobs to "The Book" to get an answer to a question then pedaling back is funny but possible.

Train rails will survive, not a lot of steam trains left in the UK, no where near enough to pick up the load.

Localy you can recover quickly. Its when it takes years to replace the sub stations and transformers to restore power to your major cities and industry, when your hospitals ran out of drugs to fight the epidemics that sweep the population because 60 million people in the UK have no clean drinking water and riot, when you have food that rots in the fields because you are trying to rebuild a transport infrastructure to move it, when the police have lost control of areas of the country and the army is too small to maintain control.

Books suffer from age and weather, when your libraries are abandoned and the books used as fire fuel then what. The scale of the problem is the killer more than the nature of the problem.

As an aside, many many many years ago when I was doing my IT diploma we were taught to really build a computer from scratch. Design and acid etch the motherboard, solder the chip and components in place on the board, we hand built the power supply etc. To pass you took a bag of bits and had to make it run a set of toy traffic lights. I had a good chuckle some years ago when I found my old books from ten in a box.

The peole who taught me are long dead, there were few of us doing the course then and it changed beyond recognition over the years. When the last of us are from those courses are gone and the old books have gone then that skill is lost. The theory may still be around but the knowledge is what allows you to do it and relearning something like that keeps the re-enactors happy for years.
 
Get ready to duck :D

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7923069/Nasa-scientists-braced-for-solar-tsunami-to-hit-earth.html

Should just be a minor one but this topic hasn't been just a lot of hot photons :shock:
 
Captain Jonah said:
Should just be a minor one but this topic hasn't been just a lot of hot photons :shock:
Typical, I have a Kp5 storm raging directly over my head, but I live so far north it doesn't get dark at night yet. :roll:

Oh well, its not like I don't get to see enough auroral displays in the winter...
 
Captain Jonah said:
Get ready to duck :D

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7923069/Nasa-scientists-braced-for-solar-tsunami-to-hit-earth.html

Should just be a minor one but this topic hasn't been just a lot of hot photons :shock:
That explains the day I've had doing tech support today. I came in this morning to a rash of customers calling in with power surge related issues on their equipment.

Of course, it was only the ones who failed to have their equipment plugged into UPS and Surge Suppressors.
 
Mongoose Pete said:
Captain Jonah said:
Should just be a minor one but this topic hasn't been just a lot of hot photons :shock:
Typical, I have a Kp5 storm raging directly over my head, but I live so far north it doesn't get dark at night yet. :roll:

Oh well, its not like I don't get to see enough auroral displays in the winter...

Already posted this suggestion in another thread here about the solar flare, but I do wonder...

Mongoose delayed the Darrian module from July to August...

Could it be they paid off someone to set off a star trigger just very briefly to help advertise the book...

It's a thought! :shock:


:D
 
Cleon the Mad said:
Mongoose Pete said:
Captain Jonah said:
Should just be a minor one but this topic hasn't been just a lot of hot photons :shock:
Typical, I have a Kp5 storm raging directly over my head, but I live so far north it doesn't get dark at night yet. :roll:

Oh well, its not like I don't get to see enough auroral displays in the winter...

Already posted this suggestion in another thread here about the solar flare, but I do wonder...

Mongoose delayed the Darrian module from July to August...

Could it be they paid off someone to set off a star trigger just very briefly to help advertise the book...

It's a thought! :shock:


:D

Mongoose have a star trigger :shock:
Find an agent to sneak into the building and see if they are stockpiling computer chips in the storerooms and do they have the evil criminal mastermind airship in the carpark :D

Clue for those who miss the film ref, grace jones :D
 
Captain Jonah said:
Mongoose have a star trigger :shock:

Of course, you didn't think they would do the book without researching the technology first did you? This wasn't at full power, just a small scale test to make sure it worked.
 
AndrewW said:
Captain Jonah said:
Mongoose have a star trigger :shock:

Of course, you didn't think they would do the book without researching the technology first did you? This wasn't at full power, just a small scale test to make sure it worked.

Not sure on this one, if I had some tech 16 stuff lying around I wouldn't be using it to promote a book. I would be in full evil criminal mastermind mode. Mwahahahahahaha :twisted:
 
Yep - and, now for actual facts, rather than the drama-centric version presented by the 'press', with the typical inclusion of quotes taken entirely out of context (otherwise known in common vernacular as 'the news' ;) )

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/sunearthsystem/main/News080210-cme.html

So, enjoy the pretty lights, if you are lucky enough to see them!
 
locarno24 said:
Bah. A far more important astronomical phenomona has been spotted: a 463 million km long stream of alcohol.
Actually that gives me a wonderful idea for a start-up corporation (Jamesons perhaps?), who supply 'Star Blended Single Nova' whisky - a drink which, unknown to customers, is literally scooped from a floating cloud of ethanol, tainted by a unique mixture of organic molecules.

The company is making a killing since the whisky tastes excellent, but their manufacturing costs are zero. Fun and adventure are guaranteed when...

1) The safe-to-consume parts of the 'wisp' they are scooping run out and they unwittingly begin to bottle increasingly less palatable methanol in the mix. Forcing the local Count (a fan of the tipple) to send the PCs to investigate why.

2) Competitors have figured out what Jameson's is doing and send the PCs to track down the particular gas cloud being mined. But the company is on to them and 'fakes' mining the wrong part of the cloud.

3) Analysis by Imperium Health and Safety officers has discerned that the organic additive is actually Droyne DNA and deputises the PCs to discover whether Jameson's is engaged in genocidal manufacturing processes.

4) The previous crew hospitalised for chronic alcoholism, the PCs are hired to make an scooping run on the cloud. However half way through they all start to become aware of a smell of whisky and realise there is a leak in the holding tanks or 'fuel' refiners. The race starts to save their lives as they begin to suffer increasing levels of inebriation! (A great excuse to play with a bottle of single malt and top up the player's tumblers every once in a while... ;) )

5 & 6) Somebody else can fill these in... 'Hic' I think I've done too much research... :D
 
Mongoose Pete said:
5 & 6) Somebody else can fill these in... 'Hic' I think I've done too much research... :D

5. Reputable manufactures of whisky hire the players to locate the source of the stuff which is driving down prices and quality. They have a few hundred tons of oxygen in cargo and a few large matches :D

6. Lawyers representing the thousands of people who are suffering brain damage or going blind as a result of drinking this stuff hire the players to hunt down the black market smugglers in thier mobile processing plants. These whiskey runners scoop the methanol, bottle it in the cargo bay then drop of cargo containers full of the stuff to buyers after suggling it past customs. Of course when they players do find these guys do they stop them or join them :twisted:

7. Grandfather finaly notices the leak in his booze ocean and sends some of his drones to get it back. Every last drop of it. :shock:

8. The trillions of gallons of booze reach a nearby sun. WOOOOOOO.
 
9. The players spot a scout ship manouvring crazily as it emerges from a nearby gas cloud. The pilot of the scout contacts them to inform them that they are, in fact, his best mates. He becomes violent if they try and get rid of him.

10. The stream of alcohol is actually originating from a derelict ship - which is interesting, because far more alcohol vapour has emerged than could possibly have been stored on board.
 
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