The Origin of the "Shuriken Gun" ?

[grymlocke]

over thinking....
simple answer: video games...becasue it looks really kewl

*trip down memory lane* ohhh the megaman villin that shot circular saw blades from his shooting arm. Ohhh those were the days.

all the video games from the 80/90's that I played in pizza places (those big heavy stand alones) always seemed to have some boss villian firing those things... :roll:

 

[Gentleman John]

... unless the blades have gyroscopic stabilizers inside them to keep them flying straight and true, and have monomolecular filaments lining their edge for extra sharpness, and are made out of some super tough but amazingly light metal like mithril. 8)

Add a reactionless thruster, and you have the Bloody Card!

<Awaits inevitable DP fanboy response ...>

 

[zozotroll]

Liveing creatures, and armored vehicles both stop functioning when something penetrates to something vital. How big a hole you tear in the outer skin has little to do with anything. The hydrostatic shock theory has largely been disproven out side of a few hold outs that are ignoreing the newest data.

If you are hopeing a target bleeds to death from a surface wound, you are likely to get torn up very badly before he goes down.

 

[rust]

If you are hopeing a target bleeds to death from a surface wound, you are likely to get torn up very badly before he goes down.

Two thoughts.

First, the target does not necessarily have to be a human, and I could
well imagine creatures which would suffer badly from a surface wound.

Second, if the target of the weapon - human or otherwise - has to wear
an environment suit, a big hole in the suit may well be more useful than
a deep penetration of the projectile.

 

[zozotroll]

Agreed, but if it is an armored suit, then a clean penetration beats much scraped paint.

This is much like argueing for a ship with a pointed bow or a square bow. In cetain special circumstances, the square bow does have a few big advantages. In everything else, it is a big disadvantage.

 

[rust]

This is much like argueing for a ship with a pointed bow or a square bow. In cetain special circumstances, the square bow does have a few big advantages. In everything else, it is a big disadvantage.

Yep, this is exactly how I see this kind of weapon, as something designed
for one very specific and unusual circumstance, but of not much use in
any of the "standard situations".

 

[GypsyComet]

As already mentioned, it is fairly simple to ignore the description of the ammo and use the stats for something a little different.

"So its a gauss rifle..."

"Sort of, but you know how the Gauss Rifle we used in the Army threw those little darts?"

"Yeah."

THUNK! "These darts aren't so little."

 

[Dave Chase]

Thank you. That was the movie I was thinking of, " I come in Peace".

Could picture some of the scenes, just couldn't think of the name.

Dave Chase

 

[Lysander]

First time I saw the language was in the original "Rogue Trader" from GW in the mid-1980's (if you are looking for an actual date check when it was released).

 

[Infojunky]

While discs may be sub-optimal with regards resistance and penetration normally, at high speeds these become non-issues - and the larger surface area means more damage force (and still has a thin edge for penetration).

Damage Force?!?

The Kinetic energy is the same no mater what the shape of the projectile.

Penetration is a function of the striking surface.

Damage depends on what you are hitting with the projectile and how well it transfers it's energy....

 

[atpollard]

The Kinetic energy is the same no mater what the shape of the projectile.

Penetration is a function of the striking surface.

Damage depends on what you are hitting with the projectile and how well it transfers it's energy....

I have no problem with accepting the weapon (after discarding Conservation of Momentum, most other handwaves come fairly easily)

Since you bring up Physics concepts:
What about the 'Right Hand Rule' and angular momentum? In a spinning bullet, that force is directed forwards (or backwards) along the flight path. Wouldn't a spinning disk have a force pushing it up or down depending on which way it was spinning?

Have I missed something or will this weapon fire in an upward curved path before beginning to drop at some range (as the spin slows down).
That will make aiming interesting.

 

[tjoneslo]

If you're going to accept that a shruiken gun, you might as well go for this as well:

 

[rust]

A perfect weapon against creatures adversely affected by loud noise ... :lol:

Somehow that makes me think of my neighbours ... 8)

 

[simonh]

Rust:

>I do not know how you would feel about the idea to attach a sword to a
>primitive black powder rocket in the hope to make it more dangerous -
>to me, it would seem ridiculous. But I would be wrong.

I could just as easily argue that some weapons that look cool and deadly but actualy turn out to be rubbish in practice, but that wouldn't prove anything.

>First, the target does not necessarily have to be a human, and I could
>well imagine creatures which would suffer badly from a surface wound.

The Triffid gun has already been discussed here but it's not realy relevent because that's not how the weapon is presented in the stats.


GamerDude:

>... unless the blades have gyroscopic stabilizers inside them to keep them flying
>straight and true, and have monomolecular filaments lining their edge for extra
>sharpness, and are made out of some super tough but amazingly light metal like mithril.

Or alternatively, you could just fire a dart.

Havign said all that, the chainsaw gun looks awesome. I want one!


Simon Hibbs

 

[atpollard]

If you're going to accept that a shruiken gun, you might as well go for this as well:

Sure, tell me you wouldn't mess your pants if someone started shooting RPCs at YOU! :shock:

(They must be Grav stabilized - everything else seems to be.) :lol:

 

[Infojunky]

The Kinetic energy is the same no mater what the shape of the projectile.

Penetration is a function of the striking surface.

Damage depends on what you are hitting with the projectile and how well it transfers it's energy....

I have no problem with accepting the weapon (after discarding Conservation of Momentum, most other handwaves come fairly easily)

Since you bring up Physics concepts:
What about the 'Right Hand Rule'

I don't see how it applies.

and angular momentum? In a spinning bullet, that force is directed forwards (or backwards) along the flight path. Wouldn't a spinning disk have a force pushing it up or down depending on which way it was spinning?

But there is the Magus effect which can play hob with your projectile...

Though for cool effect skipping you saw-blades-of-death off of things is a kinda cool effect....

But, I kinda was asking about the term "Damage Force".

 

[ArnelMachida]

The MagRail weapons firing metal discs (nicknamed "shuriken guns") men-
tioned in Mongoose Traveller's Book 1 Mercenary caused a lot of debate,
and during this debate some people proposed that the authors of Mercena-
ry might have borrowed the idea from the Warhammer 40K game.

But I thought Warhammer 40k game never existed at all? I came a cross with an article in other forum sites.




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[locarno24]

Impressive. Your Necromantic Powers are strong today.

 

[rust]

Beware - A Zombie Thread ... :shock: :shock: :shock:

We really need that chainsaw gun ... :twisted:

 

[locarno24]

It is Halloween season...