Skin Dancing

[Green X Lantern]

So...how does a Skin Dancing Nial interact with AF, fighters in a support roll, etc....

Has anyone else found this ability almost useless?

Finally, what if a regular fighter, without Skin Dancing stacks on a capital ship counter...what arc is it in (for both sides)?

 

[Da Boss]

good question re AF and Skin dancing- debated but not settled I believe...........

I do find it a little annoying that my Liati/Sahdow ship can't escape from a crippled dying White star that fails its roll (tragic :roll: ) and crashes into me even though I have not moved yet.............and I am more manuervable...........guess I should position my ships better................

 

[Court Jester]

Skin Dancing... the easiest way to RAM in ACTA

 

[Frankvas]

I asked the same question some months ago and got essentially a non answer. It works as written. AFTER AF fire. Which makes it pointless, since your Nials/Tishats/Fliers will just die from the AF anyways and no other ship would waste time firing onto fighters unless they had nothing else to shoot at. If Skin Dancing got around the AF trait, then maybe..... no it would still suck.

Frank V.

 

[Ripple]

While I love to be the pessimist myself I have to say your wrong here Frankvas.

Yes your still engaged by AF/AAF, but not all ships have some, many ships that do have it have a very limited supply. So good examples of ships you would skin dance on.

It also allows you to jump past a screening ship to attack the ship of your choice despite possibly considerable numbers of off side weapons.

Not saying the difficulty of the act doesn't make it questionable, but it's not totally useless just because I may get to fire one or two AF dice at your four to six flights.

Ripple

 

[Iain McGhee]

I still think that the description of AF fire in the Minbari fleet special rules makes it pretty clear what's intended. In the first paragraph it states that a skindancing ship can't be targeted by weapons and defensive systems. Not a direct quote, but near enough. Feel free to look it up . I'd think that defensive systems includes AF fire. If it doesn't then there's hardly any point to it. An official answer would be nice.

 

[Taran]

There's a lot of point to have squadroned White Stars SkinDance...

Wouldn't that just be evil? a quartet of White Stars that all pass their SkinDancing rolls on a Battle or higher Priority ship...

 

[Burger]

Wouldn't that just be evil? a quartet of White Stars that all pass their SkinDancing rolls on a Battle or higher Priority ship...

Yes it would, but you'd have to be foolish or desperate to attempt it. Chances are you'd lose a lot of your ships, so you're better off just attacking as normal. Unless they're all crippled and going to die anyway of course!

 

[lastbesthope]

But if you've lost your front weapon arc skin dancing is the way to go out on a WS.

LBH

 

[Taran]

Wouldn't that just be evil? a quartet of White Stars that all pass their SkinDancing rolls on a Battle or higher Priority ship...

Yes it would, but you'd have to be foolish or desperate to attempt it. Chances are you'd lose a lot of your ships, so you're better off just attacking as normal. Unless they're all crippled and going to die anyway of course!

But if you could pull it off...

Almost as tough as pulling off a DFA with a Marauder II...

 

[Da Boss]

But if you've lost your front weapon arc skin dancing is the way to go out on a WS.
LBH

Yep if you win iniaitive it may actually be worth moving first to get out of its way if possible as you can't get away from it otherwise - esp if you are using a Liati......................

 

[Taran]

How do you get out of the way of an Agile ship with that much speed and 2 90degree turns?

 

[Da Boss]

Well it usually when its crippled and so 1/2 sp and only one turn

 

[David Anla Shok']

Skin Dancing... the easiest way to RAM in ACTA

Boy, ain't that the truth?

 

[David Anla Shok']

But if you've lost your front weapon arc skin dancing is the way to go out on a WS.

LBH

uuuuuuuuunless you make the roll then there you are, skin dancing without a way to hurt the other guy.
My luck would be to make successful rolls with an unarmed ship for the rest of the game. It's still a hell of a target number to make with any degree of reliability. And failure results in you eating the big one. There isn't even a "well, you blew it and veered off" result.

 

[Taran]

Well it usually when its crippled and so 1/2 sp and only one turn

But if it's not crippled, then this doesn't apply...

 

[Da Boss]

true but I have encountered it from badly damaged White Stars - not so much from healthy ones...........

 

[Burger]

Well it usually when its crippled and so 1/2 sp and only one turn

But if it's not crippled, then this doesn't apply...

But if it's not crippled, only a madman would attempt to skin dance. Unless as LBH pointed out, it has lost its weapons - even then I'd prefer to do All Hands On Deck, it repairs all non-vital crits automatically on a WS. Well OK, if it has 2 vital systems crits, taking out both weapons, then I'd skin dance. But chances are its mostly crippled by then anyway.

 

[lastbesthope]

But if you've lost your front weapon arc skin dancing is the way to go out on a WS.

LBH

uuuuuuuuunless you make the roll then there you are, skin dancing without a way to hurt the other guy.

That has happened to me an annoying number of times.

LBH

 

[lastbesthope]

even then I'd prefer to do All Hands On Deck, it repairs all non-vital crits automatically on a WS.

I don't think it does, CQ 4, + 1 on a WS, + 2 for all hands on deck, gives you a +7 modifer.

You need a 9 to make a Damage Control check so a roll of a 1 will not do. There is no +1 bonus for Damage Control checks from Adaptive Armour anymore, at least not in my rulebook.

LBH