placement of Babylon 5 books, comics and movies...

lightsyder

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Anyone worked out what tentative dates could be for the placement of the Babylon 5 books, comics and movies? I don't think any of the RPG books cover them. Legend of the Rangers was in the Signs and Portents pdg but I believe that was it. It would be nice to see how they fit in the scheme of the various seasons...
 
Ok, movies.

In The Beginning: The intro/narrative parts by Londo take place about 10 years after "War Without End" (Series 3), in the alternate future where Sheridan gets unstuck in time. The war itself is 10 years before Series 1.
Narrative: 2270
Story: 2246-2248

Thirdspace takes place between the Vorlon-Shadow War and when the Army of Light takes back the Earth Alliance (Series 4).
Story: 2261

A Call to Arms takes place in 2267, i believe, 5 years after Series 5. (With the Crusade series following on from it).
Story: 2267

River of Souls... I don't know, but I do know it's set sometime after Series 5.
I don't know. Somewhere between 2262 and 2267

Legend of the Rangers... I think this takes place latest of them all. It's less than 20 years after Z'Ha'Dum (s3), as Sheridan's still alive I think (he's mentioned as still being president), but i think it takes place after Crusade and the Drakh War.
I don't know. Somwhere between 2269 and 2281.

Books and comics, I don't have (yet). So can't help you there :-)
 
Atlantis said:
Ok, movies.

In The Beginning: The intro/narrative parts by Londo take place about 10 years after "War Without End" (Series 3), in the alternate future where Sheridan gets unstuck in time. The war itself is 10 years before Series 1.
Narrative: 2270
Story: 2246-2248
...
Books and comics, I don't have (yet). So can't help you there :-)

Sorry to disappoint you but Londo's narrative is not in an alternative future, destruction of Centaur Prime is inevitable (see Legions of Fire trilogy, imo the best of the books and a must read).
An alternative future would have resulted in Sheriden had followed Delenn's advice "do not go to Za'ha'dum"[/i]
 
Trajan said:
Sorry to disappoint you but Londo's narrative is not in an alternative future, destruction of Centaur Prime is inevitable (see Legions of Fire trilogy, imo the best of the books and a must read).
An alternative future would have resulted in Sheriden had followed Delenn's advice "do not go to Za'ha'dum"[/i]

Also it was not 10 years but 17 years since you began your great crusade or somewhere around 2277 or 2278(if great crusade refers to post-Z'Ha'Dum campaign against the first ones) or roughly 4 years before Sheridan's death.
 
"The war itself is 10 years before season 1." is correct, actually. I was referring to the E-M war (hence the word "before", not "after").
Listen to the intro of season 1 "10 years after the Earth-Minbari War."

As for the alternate future bit, ok i can't remember.

EDIT: He does actually say it's possibly an alternate future. But with the decimation of Centauri Prime happening anyway, it didn't make the difference he thought it would.

Besides, i've not read those books, I've only seen this...

When you and I were in the time rift with Babylon 4, for a moment, i jumped forward in time. We'd won the war but Centauri Prime had been devastated. You said that this future couldn't be changed. You also told me "Do not go to Z'ha'dum! Do you understand? Do not go to Z'ha'dum!" and I began to wonder. What if all that happened because I listened to your warning and didn't go to Z'ha'dum? What if I could prevent the fall of Centauri Prime and end the Shadow War by going there?

EDIT2: The only way we can be sure is because the future Sheridan saw was the same future in which Babylon 5 was destroyed by the Shadows. By going to Z'ha'dum Sheridan avoided that, therefore alternate future.
 
No, the key there is "what if?". Sheridan doesn't know, he's guessing. Without Delenn's warning in the future, Anna would certainly have convinced him to go, if only to find a way to strike at the Shadows directly. With Delenn's warning...well he went anyway. Sheridan doesn't change anything, the flash forward in War Without End is to the future that does eventually happen. The damage came because he went, and more accurately because he didn't clean up the Drakh problem even though Londo warned him about it in the same flash forward. If he had NOT gone, that would have created an alternate future, but given his personality there really wasn't much of a chance of that.
 
Atlantis said:
EDIT2: The only way we can be sure is because the future Sheridan saw was the same future in which Babylon 5 was destroyed by the Shadows. By going to Z'ha'dum Sheridan avoided that, therefore alternate future.

That future would have been brought if they hadn't took B4 into past. Since they took, B5 wasn't destroyed by Shadows regardless of wether he went to Z'Ha'Dum or not.

He was only guessing and TRYING to avoid the future he saw. But just because you know what is going to happen doesn't mean you can alter it...Especially if you don't know HOW it happened...

Oh and JMS concider Centauri events in 2278 de facto what happened. Good enough for me :lol:
 
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