New clarification PDF on the way!

mthomason said:
The SRD just contains the stuff you can copy into your own work, you really do need to read it alongside a real rulebook to make any sense of it, so you can refer to the examples to clarify just how the heck this or that rule works.

That sums it up perfectly...
 
I think perhaps we're talking about two different things here. When I say 'errors,' I mean typos, gramattical errors, omissions, etc., not necessarily 'errors' in design (which are often subjective anyway).

For example, the halving of skill rule. To some here, that's clearly broken, and mathematically just doesn't add up. But that's a design issue and maybe that was the intent. Either way, it's not something that has a clear-cut fix that can be handled immediately, and I wouldn't expect it to be.

On the other hand, if you have a typo wherein you say a shortsword can be set for a charge, okay, fine, that's a mistake. I can forgive that. But I would expect that to be fixed the next time that chunk of text is made public, be it the next hard-copy printing or an SRD.

A manufacturer of hard drives works in electronics, plastic and metal. If his directions are translated poorly, that's one thing, but he better have his electronics and plastic and metal right.

Any book publisher, however, works in words and paragraphs and ideas. If the artwork is off, that's one thing, but he better have his words and paragraphs and ideas right.

As a consumer, I would not buy a book that was never spellchecked and was filled with grammatical errors. I'm surprised to hear that publishers preparing to spend their own company's resources on making a product based off an OGL would have standards that are any less...
 
SteveMND said:
I'm surprised to hear that publishers preparing to spend their own company's resources on making a product based off an OGL would have standards that are any less...

Oh, you'd be surprised :)

Most publishers see the SRD as a great favour from Mongoose (as they are by no means required to produce it in the first place), and are happy for anything they can get, especially if it gives them the chance to produce material and slot it into somebody else's market ;)

Trust me, publishers tend to get a lot more out of the deal than Mongoose does (relatively speaking) - it might sell a few extra RQ rulebooks at the end of the day, which Mongoose will be quite happy about but is no huge impact on their overall yearly sales. For others, especially smaller publishers, a couple of scenario books that work with RQ and that sell well will probably decide whether the bills get paid or not for the next few months. When you're talking that level, you really don't care what state the SRD comes in, you're just glad you're able to get it :)

You're quite right about the statements on quality, words, paragraphs, and so forth - but thats something that the third party publishers have to get right in their end-user products, as thats the things that are being sold. The SRD is a tool to create them with, but the real work has to go into the end product, not the spanner (no offence if anyone from MGP is reading) you're putting it together with ;)
 
GbajiTheDeceiver said:
In total fairness to Mongoose, both RQ2 and RQ3 had some right clangers in them that could have totally messed up the mechanics. Half of the weapon and armour tables had to be rewritten in the RQ2 errata, and RQ3 completely missed out on the initial training requirements for skills with a score of 0.

Both of these were far far worse than anything bad I've heard about MRQ (mind you, I'm waiting on the PDF so I haven't seen the rules yet). I think it's time to give the folks a break, and not be jumping on everything and shouting the B word.

Not a lynching...

You wouldn't happen to know what the RQ2 errata weapon and armor table changes were?

I know that there were some minor changes from RQ to RQ2 (dagger fronm d6 to D4+2, and some Rune MAgic tweaks), and that RQ2 got printed before the D12 was dropped from the game (replaced D12 with 2D6).

What's the big errata, and do you still have a copy?
 
atgxtg said:
GbajiTheDeceiver said:
In total fairness to Mongoose, both RQ2 and RQ3 had some right clangers in them that could have totally messed up the mechanics. Half of the weapon and armour tables had to be rewritten in the RQ2 errata, and RQ3 completely missed out on the initial training requirements for skills with a score of 0.

Both of these were far far worse than anything bad I've heard about MRQ (mind you, I'm waiting on the PDF so I haven't seen the rules yet). I think it's time to give the folks a break, and not be jumping on everything and shouting the B word.

Not a lynching...

You wouldn't happen to know what the RQ2 errata weapon and armor table changes were?

I know that there were some minor changes from RQ to RQ2 (dagger fronm d6 to D4+2, and some Rune MAgic tweaks), and that RQ2 got printed before the D12 was dropped from the game (replaced D12 with 2D6).

What's the big errata, and do you still have a copy?
Sitting right in front of me as I type, red cover RQ2 rulebook, printed on the inside front and back covers.

Inside front, first column, about 2 fifths way down:

Code:
CHAPTER FOUR

Page 25

Weapon Statistics Table-

type        name         DEX     ENC
Axe, 1H   hatchet       7
Axe, 2H   battle axe   7
              great axe    7
              pole axe     9
              rhomphia    9
Dagger   dagger                   (4)*

And that's just for starters.

Satisfied?
 
GbajiTheDeceiver said:
And that's just for starters.

Satisfied?

Uh, no. You misunderstood my intentions. I am not challenging the sigificance of the errata (at least not yet). I don't have the errata. I didn't ask to debate flaws between RQ2 and MRQ, I just want to see the errata in case I run a RQ2 campaign in the future.

Any chance you could scan a copy of it for me?
 
GbajiTheDeceiver said:
Oh, my apologies! Took that up so so wrong. :oops:

Don't have a scanner handy I'm afraid, but I'll glady type them up for you to make up.

I'm just a soul whose intentions are good... :roll:

It just that getting errata in the pre-internet age was something. I'd say it might be the reasonw why I can remeber games that didn't have errata because they were released in the pre-internet days.

BTW, I vague rember a yellow sheet of paper with stuff written on it tucked in the RQ2 book. Is that it? I think I lost mine back when the cover fell off of my RQ2 book. :?:
 
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