Confused....
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The RQ story:
RuneQuest 1-3 was published as such. When mongoose publishing bought the license and published a new set of rules instead of going with RuneQuest 4, it was referred to as MRQ 1 (Mongoose RuneQuest 1), which was then succeeded by MRQ2 - which has now becomes the Legend system.
RuneQuest 6 is the Legend-based (it's being designed by the original creators of MRQ2) set of rules being designed by The Design Mechanism under a new RuneQuest license.
- Dan
RuneQuest 1-3 was published as such. When mongoose publishing bought the license and published a new set of rules instead of going with RuneQuest 4, it was referred to as MRQ 1 (Mongoose RuneQuest 1), which was then succeeded by MRQ2 - which has now becomes the Legend system.
RuneQuest 6 is the Legend-based (it's being designed by the original creators of MRQ2) set of rules being designed by The Design Mechanism under a new RuneQuest license.
- Dan
hanszurcher
Mongoose
RQ2 was published in 1980
then came RQ3 1984
RQ4 is actually Mongoose RuneQuest
RQ5 is Mongoose RuneQuest II/Legend
RQ6 has yet to be published.
then came RQ3 1984
RQ4 is actually Mongoose RuneQuest
RQ5 is Mongoose RuneQuest II/Legend
RQ6 has yet to be published.
Prime_Evil
Emperor Mongoose
It's good to hear that people are finding the system again.
Incidentally, if you like Legend you should also take a look at Chaosium's Basic Roleplaying - it's a multi-genre version of the rules used in Runequest, Stormbringer / Elric, Call of Cthulhu, Legend, etc.
Incidentally, if you like Legend you should also take a look at Chaosium's Basic Roleplaying - it's a multi-genre version of the rules used in Runequest, Stormbringer / Elric, Call of Cthulhu, Legend, etc.
From the website of The Design Mechanism, things getting major reviews/changes are movement, charging, common magic and spirit magic (which they are calling animism). They will also be introducing mysticism.
Here's the thread.
They are doing a thorough overhaul of a lot of the system though, if you look at the forum thread you will see what I mean.
Here's the thread.
They are doing a thorough overhaul of a lot of the system though, if you look at the forum thread you will see what I mean.
danskmacabre
Mongoose
Yeah looking forward to RQ6, I may well be using aspects of it in my Elric/Legend campaign.
Even if I don't it will be an interesting read..
Very interested to see their take on charging and tactical movement in combat anyway.
Even if I don't it will be an interesting read..
Very interested to see their take on charging and tactical movement in combat anyway.
A fresh summary of design differences has been posted up in TDM's forums. Here it is in full:
1. Character Creation
We've expanded it in some areas and streamlined in others. There's less chance of a 'cookie-cutter' character with RQ6 than with Legend. Some areas for skill allocation have been de-emphasised and others re-emphasised. Passions form a core part of the rules. All professions have been re-jigged and re-assessed.
2. Skills
These work as before but quite a few have been re-named and re-defined. This makes them more intuitive to use, although the same structure (Common vs Advanced, or Standard vs Professional, as we've now classified them) exists.
3. Combat
Similar structure, but all the Combat Manoeuvres have been tweaked and are much improved. A few new ones have been added. Defensive options are increased; shield-use is overhauled. Movement rules are completely changed, as are rules for charging. Rules for figures-based tactical movement will be included as an option.
4. Magic
Common Magic is now called Folk Magic and is a complete overhaul of the older system. We've de-emphasised the combat nature of many spells (although the old faves of Bladesharp etc are still there) and adjusted the power level quite considerably. It works very differently to the old Common Magic/Battle Magic of yore.
Animism is completely rewritten and includes extensive guidance for use. This is essential as its so different to all the other magic systems. Mysticism is introduced. This allows for Wuxia/Ninja style characters as well as more cerebral, contemplative types. Mystics don't use spells but instead enhance their own capabilities. Divine Magic and Sorcery are far more flexible than before with different options to support their use in different campaign types.
Perhaps most importantly, we've included a detailed introduction to magic chapter which gives guidance on structuring magic in different styles of fantasy, how to source/regain Magic Points, and how to create low/mid/high magic settings using some or all of the five magic systems on offer.
5. Cults
Restructured for a more generic approach, and with a couple of dozen example cults presented for GMs to customise according to need. For settings where cults are not a focus, rules for Brotherhoods/Hero/Warbands/Guilds with supporting mechanics.
6. Creatures
Tons. This is the biggest chapter of the book. Extensive guidance on how to use creatures, how to make your own, and how to play them as characters.
8. GM Guidance
A detailed chapter with advice, tips and samples for GMs including how to prep for play, how to manage each of the core components, some optional rules, and general remarks on how RQ functions based on our - and playtesters' - experiences.
Thanks to Mark for the post, here's the thread.
1. Character Creation
We've expanded it in some areas and streamlined in others. There's less chance of a 'cookie-cutter' character with RQ6 than with Legend. Some areas for skill allocation have been de-emphasised and others re-emphasised. Passions form a core part of the rules. All professions have been re-jigged and re-assessed.
2. Skills
These work as before but quite a few have been re-named and re-defined. This makes them more intuitive to use, although the same structure (Common vs Advanced, or Standard vs Professional, as we've now classified them) exists.
3. Combat
Similar structure, but all the Combat Manoeuvres have been tweaked and are much improved. A few new ones have been added. Defensive options are increased; shield-use is overhauled. Movement rules are completely changed, as are rules for charging. Rules for figures-based tactical movement will be included as an option.
4. Magic
Common Magic is now called Folk Magic and is a complete overhaul of the older system. We've de-emphasised the combat nature of many spells (although the old faves of Bladesharp etc are still there) and adjusted the power level quite considerably. It works very differently to the old Common Magic/Battle Magic of yore.
Animism is completely rewritten and includes extensive guidance for use. This is essential as its so different to all the other magic systems. Mysticism is introduced. This allows for Wuxia/Ninja style characters as well as more cerebral, contemplative types. Mystics don't use spells but instead enhance their own capabilities. Divine Magic and Sorcery are far more flexible than before with different options to support their use in different campaign types.
Perhaps most importantly, we've included a detailed introduction to magic chapter which gives guidance on structuring magic in different styles of fantasy, how to source/regain Magic Points, and how to create low/mid/high magic settings using some or all of the five magic systems on offer.
5. Cults
Restructured for a more generic approach, and with a couple of dozen example cults presented for GMs to customise according to need. For settings where cults are not a focus, rules for Brotherhoods/Hero/Warbands/Guilds with supporting mechanics.
6. Creatures
Tons. This is the biggest chapter of the book. Extensive guidance on how to use creatures, how to make your own, and how to play them as characters.
8. GM Guidance
A detailed chapter with advice, tips and samples for GMs including how to prep for play, how to manage each of the core components, some optional rules, and general remarks on how RQ functions based on our - and playtesters' - experiences.
Thanks to Mark for the post, here's the thread.
danskmacabre
Mongoose
It looks like there's a fair few differences.
Seeing as I run Elric and it's 100% compatible with Legend, I'll probably stick with that.
However I will still buy RQ6 and maybe cannibalise the combat section, including tactical combat and if I like them, see if I can integrate the new CMs into Legend as well.
The creatures and GM guidance section sounds interesting too.
Seeing as I run Elric and it's 100% compatible with Legend, I'll probably stick with that.
However I will still buy RQ6 and maybe cannibalise the combat section, including tactical combat and if I like them, see if I can integrate the new CMs into Legend as well.
The creatures and GM guidance section sounds interesting too.
hanszurcher
Mongoose
RQ6 is definitely on my wishlist.
The rules for Mysticism alone make my toes tingle.
The rules for Mysticism alone make my toes tingle.
Prime_Evil
Emperor Mongoose
danskmacabre said:
I suspect that a lot of people will mix material from the two game systems indiscriminately - especially from the various sourcebooks published after the core rules...
hanszurcher
Mongoose
To further confuse things Steve Perrin recently mentioned that he'd been talking to Charlie Krank (of Chaosium) about possibly publishing Steve Perrin's Quest Rules (SPQR).
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