BF Evo, future weapons

[captainsmirk]

Did the Israelis listern?

Anyway I think we've gone way OT here...


Nick

 

[Hiromoon]

Nope, but that's not what your statement was about.

Anyway, here's a bit featuring China in the future:

China waits patiently for rearmament in 2050

Jon Grevatt Jane's Asia-Pacific Industry Reporter

China will wait until the middle of this century before embarking on a period of "energetic rearmament", a leading East Asian defence expert has claimed.

Ron Huisken, a senior fellow at the Strategic and Defence Studies Centre at the Australian National University, added that China's short-to-medium term priority would be to focus on economic growth.

"While this is in progress military rearmament will not be a top priority," Huisken added. "They will not let rearmament slip but economic power is their top priority."

Huisken's comments followed the recent publication of China's National Defence White Paper.

He said that the Chinese government is becoming very aware of its military image: "In order to rebuild the Chinese military they have had to make a hugely uncharacteristic decision to play ball with the rest of the world. It is like a race to achieve military status as soon as possible using the old Chinese way, against the need to change internally to be internationally recognised."

Huisken believes that this change in image is part of Beijing's plan to energise rearmament by the middle of this century.

"They are focusing on what they call 'Peace and Development' and this means that they are still waiting before carrying out a programme of energetic rearmament.

 

[roughneck GIR]

So while they build factories some random country could nuke china and live to tell the tail? Sad day for them, but I don't want to see all those precious things I buy that have the 'made in China' sticker to be vaporised :lol:

 

[Hiromoon]

That made little to NO sense....

 

[BuShips]

That made little to NO sense....

Where is your sense of humor, Hiro? I thought it was funny. I've played in computer "empire" games where I got too greedy when I was building my economy because I knew if I could throw most of my resources into my infrastructure before anyone attacked me, I would have the biggest military in the game. The "trick" is in maximising your economy and switching over to military construction before you get wacked by the little snot next door who built cheap destroyers, lol. :lol:

 

[Hiromoon]

It would have been funny if I could understand him, BuShips..


Anyway:

XM1040 40mm Thermobaric Grenade (Fired from the M203)
Range: 16" Damage: D10

This weapon causes a –2 penalty to Armour rolls and will roll extra Damage Dice (but only D6+2 with no penalty to Armour rolls) against every model within 3” of the centre of the model its first Damage Dice is allocated to - these extra models need not be in Line of Sight. It may only be fired once per turn, and never as a reaction.

 

[Sgt. Brassones]

Back on topic. Has anyone any more info on the Dread weapon system?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RdxBqe3ubg

 

[Hiromoon]

Overglorified slingshot? I mean, the darn thing spins before launching (or at least that's what it seems to me)...

http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=526

DREAD Centrifuge Weapon System (Centrifuge Gun)

No, I don't see this thing replacing regular fire arms...

 

[BuShips]

Back on topic. Has anyone any more info on the Dread weapon system?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RdxBqe3ubg

I really liked that weapon when I saw it earlier here, even though it doesn't have a "mean-looking" appearance. I think I commented on how well that weapons system would match up with the RST-V Shadow's stealth features. Since DREAD doesn't illuminate itself and is silent (mostly iirc), it would be sweet to mount on the Shadow hybrid. 8)

 

[Hiromoon]

heaven help you if your batteries run out though. One of the benefit of the old fashioned chemical projectiles.

Hey Buships, what do you think of:

XM1040 40mm Thermobaric Grenade (Fired from the M203)
Range: 16" Damage: D10

This weapon causes a –2 penalty to Armour rolls and will roll extra Damage Dice (but only D6+2 with no penalty to Armour rolls) against every model within 3” of the centre of the model its first Damage Dice is allocated to - these extra models need not be in Line of Sight. It may only be fired once per turn, and never as a reaction.

 

[BuShips]

Overglorified slingshot? I mean, the darn thing spins before launching (or at least that's what it seems to me)...

http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=526

DREAD Centrifuge Weapon System (Centrifuge Gun)

No, I don't see this thing replacing regular fire arms...

Yeah man, but I'll bet it could cut your lawn in a jiffy! Check the next Sears catalog... :lol:

 

[BuShips]

heaven help you if your batteries run out though. One of the benefit of the old fashioned chemical projectiles.

Hey Buships, what do you think of:

XM1040 40mm Thermobaric Grenade (Fired from the M203)
Range: 16" Damage: D10

This weapon causes a –2 penalty to Armour rolls and will roll extra Damage Dice (but only D6+2 with no penalty to Armour rolls) against every model within 3” of the centre of the model its first Damage Dice is allocated to - these extra models need not be in Line of Sight. It may only be fired once per turn, and never as a reaction.

Well, firing without LOS is very logical with a weapon like that as it can "get" them even when they were hunkered down over a stone wall or in a structure, but I'd limit its use to a player. Think of it this way. As a player we are allowed to see all of the other player's deployments, right? But in reality we wouldn't blind-fire this weapon randomly unless we knew about where the bad guys were at. So I figure some rule that states that the player using this must have had prior LOS in a recent turn or communication with other friendly units that can spot for the firing player. This way an OOLOS shot can be used without needing Sgt. Nostradamus as a squad leader. :wink:

 

[Sgt. Brassones]

Hey Hiro, don't you think it should have something like Multihit against structures?

 

[Lane Shutt]

"these extra models need not be in Line of Sight"
slight clarification needed here.

The model you allocate the initial damage to must be in LOS per normal rules. Any additional models may bo out of LOS.

 

[Hiromoon]

Yeah, well it's just the M203 rules with a little tweaking, but Lane's basically got it right.

Sgt. Brassones: Yeah, and it wouldn't hurt to just say 'Causes 2 wounds on a structure, and if the kill score is rolled, the structure takes 4 wounds'...

 

[Hiromoon]

The RedOwl is a robotic head that looks more like a PowerPoint projector than a sharpshooter’s worst enemy. But don’t let its Circuit City appearance fool you: Controlled by a laptop-wielding soldier, the RedOwl’s superior senses can read a nametag from across a football field and identify the make and model of a rifle fired a mile away simply by analyzing the sound of the distant blast. And soon it could be putting its powers to use in Iraq.

RedOwl’s developer, Glenn Thoren, now a director at Insight Technology in Londonderry, New Hampshire, says several prototypes have finished an intensive 10-week field test at Fort Benning in Georgia. Given the defense department’s budget approval early this year, he hopes the $150,000 sniper-finders will be in Iraq by this spring.

The robot’s mechanical ears were originally designed to improve hearing aides. But Thoren, then with Boston University’s Photonics Center, which heads the RedOwl project, thought up a new application after learning of a spike in sniper activity surrounding Iraqi hotspots like Abu Ghraib prison. He combined the original listening system—which processes sound received by four microphones to determine the direction and elevation of a noise—with a suite of sensors, spotlights and a laser rangefinder. When the RedOwl hears gunfire, it swivels its head toward the source of the noise. A thermal imager can pick out the sniper while an infrared spotlight illuminates him for night-vision-equipped troops.

Attached to a PackBot, a miniature robot tank built by iRobot in Burlington, Massachusetts, and steered by a modified Xbox videogame controller, the RedOwl can also enter dangerous buildings in advance of soldiers. “We’re hoping to put the robot in situations where it would be less safe for a soldier,” Thoren says.

HOW IT WORKS

EARS
When a shot is fired, the incoming sound waves pass over four microphones, and a processor parses the data to pinpoint the source of the sound, all in a few milliseconds. The system can recognize weapons by their report, and thus ignore friendly fire.
EYES
A central camera allows the remote operator to see where the RedOwl is going, and a powerful zoom cam enables the operator to study potential snipers without getting too close. RedOwl’s lasers can illuminate a target up to a mile away. Because the laser is infrared, the sniper won’t be aware he’s in the spotlight, but soldiers with night-vision goggles will see him perfectly.
MATH SKILLS
A laser rangefinder bounces a beam off the target, and RedOwl calculates the intervening distance. Factoring in its own GPS position and using a magnetic compass to determine the direction in which it’s looking, RedOwl can figure out the location of a target 3,000 feet away, allowing troops to call in a precision air strike.

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/b0c7eda4e7110110vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html

 

[Mr Evil]

metal storm, im sure you covered it but just incase

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67OYIk1woiI

 

[Hiromoon]

Yes...we've covered it.... I just have to wait till you need to reload and tada! Or hit your positions with EMP...

Anyway, a few things from DARPA:

A sensor for hearing through concrete:

Crusher UGV

Some UAV concept?

Robotic limbs

 

[Mr Evil]

lets not forget the Kamov black ghost

was shown this in a modle shop today nice

some have sugested its a hoax and just a kit form that may never happen

but isreal and russia have designed and built this as far as i know.

Ka-50-2 Erdogan

Video

Kamov Ka-50 cannon attack (215kB) http://military.boskowan.net/Video/web/ka-50_cannon.mpeg

Kamov Ka-50 rocket attack (312kB) http://military.boskowan.net/Video/web/ka-50_missiles.mpeg

 

[MaxSteiner]

Always liked that chopper
The latest Russian tech kicks ass!
Incidently, just discovered that Russia
is activly in the process of clearing its national debt (And is well on
track to boot, about 1/3 I think which is especially impressive when
you consider America is pretty much never gonna be able to even
make a dent in theres anymore), and is in the process of strengthening
its economic ties with China Venezuela Iran etc .
Should be interesting to see how things turn out (And more importantly what Mongooses take on this will be when they get round to adding the russian faction to BF:E lol)