BF Evo, future weapons

[Mr Evil]

has their been any mention of thermite shells ?

 

[Hiromoon]

Nope. I haven't really done much but gloss over ammo.

 

[Larac]

Saw a program on the Javlin System, then loaded the Army Game up, and did the quals on it,if it works as directed, I locked in less than 2 Sec, fired, ran to the next tube, heard the boom, reloaded, and was ready to lock again.

It has 2 charges, one to remove Reactive Armor, a 2nd to punch into the tank.

Also has a pop up attack so it can hit top of the tank, or a direct fire mode.

They said a recon group, took 14 (I think), tanks out, in Iraq, with these.

Good Gaming
Lee

 

[Mac V]

Seems like it's the tanks turn to step up on defense with this latest generation of AT rockets. The latest round of fighting in Lebanon was a real eye opener for everyone.

 

[Hiromoon]

Not really... While Israel might have lost the media war, they trashed Hezbolla, even with the loss of a handful of tanks.

 

[Mac V]

Well, yeah. That fight was lost from day one in the media. I just don't think anyone was expecting them to lose those tanks and have to shift tactics accordingly. By the way, what rockets did H use? I don't rmember hearing they type.

 

[Hiromoon]

There's some debate, actually, on what hit the tanks. Theres talk of Russian anti-tank missiles from Iran, there's talk of domestically built rockets made by the Hezzies themselves, there's talk of RPG-29s and so on. Frankly, I'd say lucky shots most of them, given that only a hand full of tankers were killed out of the tanks hit.

 

[Hiromoon]

Now, here's the latest and greatest in Odd news:

Inventor hopes to sell armour suit to the military
By Wade Hemsworth
The Hamilton Spectator
(Jan 11, 2007)
The grizzly man is back, and this time he's ready to take on bullets and bombs.

Troy Hurtubise, the Hamilton-born inventor who became famous for his bulky bear-protection suit by standing in front of a moving vehicle to prove it worked, has now created a much slimmer suit that he hopes will soon be protecting Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan and U.S. soldiers in Iraq.

He has spent two years and $15,000 in the lab out back of his house in North Bay, designing and building a practical, lightweight and affordable shell to stave off bullets, explosives, knives and clubs. He calls it the Trojan and describes it as the "first ballistic, full exoskeleton body suit of armour."

Using the hard-learned lessons of his Project Grizzly experience -- a 20-year odyssey that included a National Film Board documentary, an appearance on CNN and personal bankruptcy -- he's ready to start selling his newest idea.

Already, he says, the suit has stood up to bullets from high-powered weapons, including an elephant gun. The suit was empty during the ballistics tests, but he's more than ready to put it on and face live fire.

"I would do it in an instant," he said. "Bring it on."

Yesterday, he returned to Hamilton to show off the suit, hoping to generate some publicity that will get him the meetings he wants with military and police outfitters.

On Saturday, he plans to wear it to Nathan Phillips Square in downtown Toronto and wait for the reporters. It shouldn't take long to create a stir.

Hurtubise, 43, wore his suit -- helmet and all -- on the four-hour drive down south, partly as a way of making sure it would be comfortable enough in the field. Even sitting on his armoured butt cheeks, he said he was fine.

As he drove his black pickup in his black getup, other drivers gawked and honked. Just south of Huntsville, he was delighted to be pulled over and gave an apprehensive OPP officer a close-up look at the suit.

Once he established that he could see just fine in his helmet and that the guns attached to his magnetic holsters were just props, Hurtubise was free to continue his trip.

The whole suit -- which draws design inspiration from Star Wars, RoboCop, Batman and video games -- is made from high-impact plastic lined with ceramic bullet protection over ballistic foam.

Its many features include compartments for emergency morphine and salt, a knife and emergency light. Built into the forearms are a small recording device, a pepper-spray gun and a detachable transponder that can be swallowed in case of trouble.

Dangling between the legs, that would be a clock.

In the helmet, there's a solar-powered fresh-air system and a drinking tube attached to a canteen in the small of the back. A laser pointer mounted in the middle of the forehead is ready to point to snipers, while LED lights frame the face.

The whole suit comes in at 18 kilograms. It covers everything but the fingertips and the major joints, and could be mass-produced for about $2,000, Hurtubise says.

He said he hopes to earn enough of a living from the suit so he can keep on inventing, but the real reason he did this, he says, is "for the boys."

Video:
http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/media_archive/jan-11-2007_a.html

 

[Col_stone]

I want one

 

[Hiromoon]

Whicked, huh? The man's been talking to US Army Rangers concerning the various aspects of the suit..

 

[DM]

Not really... While Israel might have lost the media war, they trashed Hezbolla, even with the loss of a handful of tanks.

Yes really. Casualties may have been heavy but losing the media war whilst also holding the ground was what was crucial in this conflict. Israel was made to look weak and incapable and, by extension and in the eyes of some in the Gulf region, a blow was struck against the West Casualties were to a degree irrelevant compared with the messages that were sent, and those messages were a foreign policy disaster for us. The Israelis came out very badly in the eyes of the world, Hezbollah musch better. Not to mention the eormous effect on the morale of the Israeli armed forces, which were very publically seen to be at an all-time low.

 

[Hiromoon]

Funny, most of the Israeli personnel I've interacted with were quite cheerful about the entire operation.

 

[DM]

LOL, most that I have interacted with were quite the opposite.

 

[Hiromoon]

*shrugs* Were yours reservists?

 

[BuShips]

I've heard that the bears are countering this with the development of the 'human-suit'. :wink:

 

[Hiromoon]

Now for some Ammunition. Not Thermite, as what Mr. Evil was talking about, but I don't think he'll complain:
Think MOAB, but in a round that's man-portable:

Thermobarics inject a fine, flammable mist into the air, Brigety said. Once ignited, the mist creates a mammoth fireball and pressure wave that's nearly impossible to avoid. The mist can travel around corners and into hidden crannies. And it burns relatively slowly, so jumping out of the way on the bomb's initial impact isn't much of a survival tactic.

Once the fire dies down, the mist sucks all of the oxygen out of the confined space. Those who manage to escape the thermobaric flames and pressure waves quickly expire from asphyxiation.

The fuel that's shot out of a thermobaric weapon is underoxidized, according to Judah Goldwasser, a program officer at the Office of Naval Research. When it mixes with the ambient oxygen in a room, it begins to ignite.

Not only does it come in a shoulder fired rocket version, but they also have it for the new Six Shot grenade launcher, the M32 40mm Multiple Grenade Launcher, and were developing a smaller version for the XM29 (aka OICW)

The NE one is the one you're looking for...

Aftermath:

 

[Sgt. Brassones]

Saw that on Future Weapons last night, it was fired from the SMAW and was frightenly effective at collasping buildings.

 

[Paladin]

I'd be happy to see the Predator SRAW.

Or the Javelin.

 

[DM]

*shrugs* Were yours reservists?

No. Reggies.

 

[DM]

Whilst it is common to think of thermobaric weapons as being one of the latest "big things" its worth remembering that the Russuaisn had the RPO-A (one of the first shoulder launched thermobaric weapons) in service in 1988. It just took us some time to catch up.

Thermobaric rounds are available for a whole host of weapons including RPGs. It would be interesting to see how they would be reflected in the rules. I've seen some mods for Modern Spearhead and they make FISH "interesting" (as they should!!)