BF Evo, future weapons
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Reaverman said:xeoran said:
Only a Smith and Wesson 38, and a Smith and Wesson 465 (an automatic). Beyond that, no I have not fired a scoped weapon...have you?
I know that one thing snipers look for, thats repetition. Since the these jump troopers will be hopping up and down, from point to point. The sniper just has to wait, as the trooper hits apogee. As for a device that rips along the horizon, like I mentioned before, where is the avionics. Also, the technology now, and in the next 10 years. Try fitting an engine in a portable housing, that a man can occupy AND at the same time make it small. The closest you are going to get, is a helicopter.
Now I know there is a jetpack, that shows up at big events. But the guy needs serious training, and its not the most agile of machines!
In the end, you are not going to have infantry using these packs in the next 10 years. They are going to be expensive, training the soldier is going to be expensive, and I cant see any department in the world justifying it.
I reckon in the next 10 years, you are going to see more remote vehicles, they will be cheaper to use, and cost efficient. Plus, politcally, people are not going to get their panties in a bind because someone popped a remote. In fact, I reckon the current line of aircraft, are more than likely be the last models you see with a pilot in them. In possibly 15-20 years they will all be remote. Thats where the tech is going to be, not with the jump pack troops, or rocketeers
Yeah, in fact a scoped weapon is pretty much the only thing I've fired several times (at pidgeons mostly...
..I'm not much of a gun guy). Its good as you say on repetition and good if you can see him but he cant see you. But stick too close to the scope and you lose PoV and can become easy meat to people outside your PoV (which is why sniper teams operate in twos). Also, people moving quickly and unexpectedly confuse you and render the scope near useless, its much better to go by eye then. No, I'm not sure the flyer will see combat in the next 10 years. But I wasnt really countign wars, just talking in general. I agree totally over Remotes. Theres also a massive swing to using Mercs (oh sorry, contractors...) as they dont crop up in the headlines. Sadly this has had adverse effects in discipline.
emperorpenguin
Mongoose
I've fired a member of staff for misconduct......
Reaverman said:
DERA no longer exists! Although that's only because the UK govt privatised defence research...cool huh?
Have to concur 100% with your assessment on manned aircraft, JSF and Typhoon are likely to be the last manned UK fast-jet aircraft for at least three decades...although I'm sure they will get upgrades
I suspect the real advances over the next couple of decades will have much less to do with individual platform capability (jetpacks being amusing nonetheless) and much more to do with integrating platforms so that whatever one unit "sees" can be targeted by any other unit best placed to take it out. i.e. the warfighting becomes smarter, more efficient and (this is the scary bit) increasingly automated.
Let's see... .DERA...
http://www.dera.gov.uk/newsite/home_3.htm
Now it's two organizations...
QinetiQ http://www.qinetiq.com/
and
Defence Science and Technology Laboratory http://www.dstl.gov.uk/
DARPA on the other hand is an US Department of Defense Organization
http://www.darpa.mil/
http://www.dera.gov.uk/newsite/home_3.htm
Now it's two organizations...
QinetiQ http://www.qinetiq.com/
and
Defence Science and Technology Laboratory http://www.dstl.gov.uk/
DARPA on the other hand is an US Department of Defense Organization
http://www.darpa.mil/
Tank
Mongoose
Just to make a comment having seen thias thread and bin amused, the effect a railgun round is likely to have is exactly the same as that used with todays ammuntion, the only advantages being that your Ammo isnt likely to explode and the firing will be relatively quiet.
As to Rail Tanks? Well as the move by western militaries is away from big armour and onto smaller, more mobile and expeditionary suited vehicles, cant see it happening any time in the next 2/3 decades.
Jet packs? I can see them being used in limited deployment for special forces, thats it tho. As to being hard to shoot down??? Full auto spread? anything catches them something is likely to die.
The Picture of the Osprey? In service with the US Marines now.
As to Rail Tanks? Well as the move by western militaries is away from big armour and onto smaller, more mobile and expeditionary suited vehicles, cant see it happening any time in the next 2/3 decades.
Jet packs? I can see them being used in limited deployment for special forces, thats it tho. As to being hard to shoot down??? Full auto spread? anything catches them something is likely to die.
The Picture of the Osprey? In service with the US Marines now.
Tank said:
It'll make a loud crack/bang, since the round will most likely be travelling near or faster than sound. As for exploding ammo, yeah I agree. But with current technology the, you'll be carrying liquid coolant (as in Nitrogen). So I reckon the possibility of going bang, is just the same. Except you'll be frozen solid, rather than burn to a crisp :lol:
JoseDominguez
Mongoose
xeoran said:Reaverman said:xeoran said:
Only a Smith and Wesson 38, and a Smith and Wesson 465 (an automatic). Beyond that, no I have not fired a scoped weapon...have you?
I know that one thing snipers look for, thats repetition. Since the these jump troopers will be hopping up and down, from point to point. The sniper just has to wait, as the trooper hits apogee. As for a device that rips along the horizon, like I mentioned before, where is the avionics. Also, the technology now, and in the next 10 years. Try fitting an engine in a portable housing, that a man can occupy AND at the same time make it small. The closest you are going to get, is a helicopter.
Now I know there is a jetpack, that shows up at big events. But the guy needs serious training, and its not the most agile of machines!
In the end, you are not going to have infantry using these packs in the next 10 years. They are going to be expensive, training the soldier is going to be expensive, and I cant see any department in the world justifying it.
I reckon in the next 10 years, you are going to see more remote vehicles, they will be cheaper to use, and cost efficient. Plus, politcally, people are not going to get their panties in a bind because someone popped a remote. In fact, I reckon the current line of aircraft, are more than likely be the last models you see with a pilot in them. In possibly 15-20 years they will all be remote. Thats where the tech is going to be, not with the jump pack troops, or rocketeers
Yeah, in fact a scoped weapon is pretty much the only thing I've fired several times (at pidgeons mostly...
No, I'm not sure the flyer will see combat in the next 10 years. But I wasnt really countign wars, just talking in general. I agree totally over Remotes. Theres also a massive swing to using Mercs (oh sorry, contractors...) as they dont crop up in the headlines. Sadly this has had adverse effects in discipline.
If you keep you eye to close to the scope then the recoil will put it through your face
not a mistake you'd ever make twice (well maybe you could, if you switched eyes after the first one). As for rail guns, isn't the other advantage that massive acceleration can be achieved on a fairly thin projectile, current ordnance needing a sabot to give a thin warhead enough of a surface to 'push'? All of which means ammo can take up less space.
Ever hear about the first SA80 scopes? Mounted so high that if you used one in an urban environment you got a face full of windowsill if you tried to fire from cover
Actually i think the US would push for Jumppacks and other rather useless hightech gizmos rather hard.........
And still keep forgetting about basic troopers......
Currently they try to do fancy stuff like F22 upgrades (Like there is an enemy where youd actually could use em). And US army guys get going without equipment no rotation to get back home, Marine Corps pressed into guard duty and a good chance that the promise of Home Guard staying home about to be broken.
The US politicians have a zero view of whats actually needed to get the Iraq situation in hand, and do everything in their possiblity to make it worse.
But i guess that is old news for vets.......All the streamlining in the world doesnt reduce the need for a strong ground presence to keep the peace. And that needs numbers not gizmos... :S
And still keep forgetting about basic troopers......
Currently they try to do fancy stuff like F22 upgrades (Like there is an enemy where youd actually could use em). And US army guys get going without equipment no rotation to get back home, Marine Corps pressed into guard duty and a good chance that the promise of Home Guard staying home about to be broken.
The US politicians have a zero view of whats actually needed to get the Iraq situation in hand, and do everything in their possiblity to make it worse.
But i guess that is old news for vets.......All the streamlining in the world doesnt reduce the need for a strong ground presence to keep the peace. And that needs numbers not gizmos... :S
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