ACTA Tournament 2011 - Saturday April 9th
- Thread starter Da Boss
- Start date
G Quan said:Sorry I´m out this year.
The cheap flights are soled out and there is only one fight that time at the afternoon. So I have to stay 3 days in UK to play 3 games. Think it´s to mutch time to spin around, soooo alone in UK.
May be next year ( if you furthermore play B5 acta!)
The turnamend last year are verry nice . . . venues, lunch, coffee...
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Very sorry to hear that - maybe next time
Ok where I think we are at present:
Saturday 9th April
Attendees
Adrian H
Axolos and friend/ observer/official photographer (? – I have a camera he could use)
Burger
Digger
Centauri Admiral
Grand Master Hiff
Greg (*)
Kenny(*)
Kickaha
Paul (Clanger) (*)
Star Lynx
Alex - Maybe
Katadder - maybe
(organiser / player stand in) Da Boss (*)
Will try and match up first couple of rounds a member of Gregs Crew marked with (*) to vistors then Swiss Chess format for 3rd and 4th games. Hiff and Kickaha are playing each other 1st round – let me know if any other grudge matches.
Proposed draft Format
Shadows and Vorlons may not take part in Scenarios one or four
10am -10.30am
Sign-in - time to say hi, taunt opponents - make rash statements of victory
10.30am Game 1 (5 pt Skirmish)
The Dilgar War - ISD ships of 2232 or before (*)Max 8 ships (10 Drazi)
(*)following ships are also included due to fluff, coolness etc
Early EA: Avenger
Narn: Sho'Kos, Thentus, T'Loth, T'Rakk,
Abbai: Bimith,
Brakiri: Avioki, Batrado, Falkosi, Ikorta,
Drazi: Warbird,
noon - lunch break
12.30 - 2pm,
Game 2 (3 pt Raid, minimum 1 raid ship (or higher PL)
Rise of Earth and the Earth-Minbari War - ISD 2248 or before (*)(terrain, no hyperspace), Max 8 ships (10 Drazi)
One Raid level or higher ship gets CQ 5
Ship exceptions as above
2.15pm - 3.45pm - Game 3 (3pt Battle)
The Time of War - ISD 2261 or before
Assassination - both players have a target ship - highest PL ship of opponent declared at the start of the Game. (One other ship of their fleet may start in hyperspace, terrain)
One Battle or higher gets CQ 5
Max 8 ships (10 Drazi)
4pm - 5.45pm - Game 4
A New Age, ISD must extend beyond 2261
(5pt Battle, must have at least one War(or higher) ship - this ship may not start in hyperspace)
Annihilation (One ship may start in hyperspace, terrain)
Max 10 ships (12 Drazi)
Clarification - your highest level ship must be on the table at the start-but get CQ 5
6pm - awards, final taunting and depart
All P+P rules amendments apply with the exception of Centauri Hunting Packs. (if you don't have this supplement please PM me)
Triggy's Beam system in operation (replacing the standard:
1-2 miss
3-4 hit
5-6 hit and roll again on this table
General info
Fleets and races may be different for each game - just declare at the start of the tourney (and give a list to me).
Only official ship stats are to be used (but P+P revisions used)
Proxy ships are permissible but make sure opponents are fully aware of what they are at the start. I have a very "large" collection of ships please let me know if you want to borrow anything.
All ships have CQ 4 modified as normal by fleet rules/ abilities except as noted
The Shadows obey scenario rules for number of ships they are allowed to deploy in hyperspace
Lastly I have debated Adrian’s worthy suggestion re fleets with the other club members and we have no major objections. As a reminder:
The suggestions I made the last time I asked about this were that (a) both players in a game need to agree that one or both secondary fleets can be used, if either player says "no" then both use their first choices; and (b) if second choices are allowed but the players can't agree on which fleets to use inside a reasonable time limit, they're both forced to use first choices. That breaks the deadlock where, for example, player 1 has Earth and player 2 has Minbari, so player 1 wants to switch to Shadows, so player 2 wants to switch to Vorlons, so player 1 wants to go back to Earth, and so on... Five minutes later the decision is made for them and it will be Earth vs. Minbari. So if Da Boss allows second choices and you're facing me, you get to use your second choice, but if you're facing Burger you don't. (Unless his one fleet is Drazi and your first choice is Shadows
Other matters:
For those who have been before you will know that my home is a little off the beaten track and hence I will endeavor to provide a similar lunch - something simple like chilie and rice (I WILL remember that the rice is there this year!!!
). If you have odd food requirements (like me) let me know in advance and i'll see what I can do (or bring something)
Tea and coffee will be served through the day, soft drinks available.
Maps are available here:
http://www.boughtonhouse.org.uk/htm/visiting/travelinfo.htm
and if you want better quality ones / more info PM me
look forward to welcoming you 8)
Saturday 9th April
Attendees
Adrian H
Axolos and friend/ observer/official photographer (? – I have a camera he could use)
Burger
Digger
Centauri Admiral
Grand Master Hiff
Greg (*)
Kenny(*)
Kickaha
Paul (Clanger) (*)
Star Lynx
Alex - Maybe
Katadder - maybe
(organiser / player stand in) Da Boss (*)
Will try and match up first couple of rounds a member of Gregs Crew marked with (*) to vistors then Swiss Chess format for 3rd and 4th games. Hiff and Kickaha are playing each other 1st round – let me know if any other grudge matches.
Proposed draft Format
Shadows and Vorlons may not take part in Scenarios one or four
10am -10.30am
Sign-in - time to say hi, taunt opponents - make rash statements of victory
10.30am Game 1 (5 pt Skirmish)
The Dilgar War - ISD ships of 2232 or before (*)Max 8 ships (10 Drazi)
(*)following ships are also included due to fluff, coolness etc
Early EA: Avenger
Narn: Sho'Kos, Thentus, T'Loth, T'Rakk,
Abbai: Bimith,
Brakiri: Avioki, Batrado, Falkosi, Ikorta,
Drazi: Warbird,
noon - lunch break
12.30 - 2pm,
Game 2 (3 pt Raid, minimum 1 raid ship (or higher PL)
Rise of Earth and the Earth-Minbari War - ISD 2248 or before (*)(terrain, no hyperspace), Max 8 ships (10 Drazi)
One Raid level or higher ship gets CQ 5
Ship exceptions as above
2.15pm - 3.45pm - Game 3 (3pt Battle)
The Time of War - ISD 2261 or before
Assassination - both players have a target ship - highest PL ship of opponent declared at the start of the Game. (One other ship of their fleet may start in hyperspace, terrain)
One Battle or higher gets CQ 5
Max 8 ships (10 Drazi)
4pm - 5.45pm - Game 4
A New Age, ISD must extend beyond 2261
(5pt Battle, must have at least one War(or higher) ship - this ship may not start in hyperspace)
Annihilation (One ship may start in hyperspace, terrain)
Max 10 ships (12 Drazi)
Clarification - your highest level ship must be on the table at the start-but get CQ 5
6pm - awards, final taunting and depart
All P+P rules amendments apply with the exception of Centauri Hunting Packs. (if you don't have this supplement please PM me)
Triggy's Beam system in operation (replacing the standard:
1-2 miss
3-4 hit
5-6 hit and roll again on this table
General info
Fleets and races may be different for each game - just declare at the start of the tourney (and give a list to me).
Only official ship stats are to be used (but P+P revisions used)
Proxy ships are permissible but make sure opponents are fully aware of what they are at the start. I have a very "large" collection of ships please let me know if you want to borrow anything.
All ships have CQ 4 modified as normal by fleet rules/ abilities except as noted
The Shadows obey scenario rules for number of ships they are allowed to deploy in hyperspace
Lastly I have debated Adrian’s worthy suggestion re fleets with the other club members and we have no major objections. As a reminder:
The suggestions I made the last time I asked about this were that (a) both players in a game need to agree that one or both secondary fleets can be used, if either player says "no" then both use their first choices; and (b) if second choices are allowed but the players can't agree on which fleets to use inside a reasonable time limit, they're both forced to use first choices. That breaks the deadlock where, for example, player 1 has Earth and player 2 has Minbari, so player 1 wants to switch to Shadows, so player 2 wants to switch to Vorlons, so player 1 wants to go back to Earth, and so on... Five minutes later the decision is made for them and it will be Earth vs. Minbari. So if Da Boss allows second choices and you're facing me, you get to use your second choice, but if you're facing Burger you don't. (Unless his one fleet is Drazi and your first choice is Shadows
Other matters:
For those who have been before you will know that my home is a little off the beaten track and hence I will endeavor to provide a similar lunch - something simple like chilie and rice (I WILL remember that the rice is there this year!!!
). If you have odd food requirements (like me) let me know in advance and i'll see what I can do (or bring something)Tea and coffee will be served through the day, soft drinks available.
Maps are available here:
http://www.boughtonhouse.org.uk/htm/visiting/travelinfo.htm
and if you want better quality ones / more info PM me
look forward to welcoming you 8)
Burger said:
The idea was really to prevent someone from abusing it and saying "OK, you're playing Earth, so I'll switch to Minbari and win". But yes, if you're absolutely determined to face the other player's primary fleet then you can insist on doing so. Remember though that one reason for secondary fleets was that if you only have one fleet and the other player's primary fleet is guaranteed to beat you, he has the option of switching to something which will make a more interesting match - your loss if you decide to forbid it anyway.
I'm most likely to ask to use my secondary fleet in games 1 and 3. In game 1, my Earth fleet is definitely second choice because it's probably suicidal against most opponents, but it could be interesting against some fleets. Especially Abbai - after recent experience (see the Dead Heat thread), I'd be happy to try that again. And in game 3, if the other player has Shadows then I want to use Army of Light, purely for fluff reasons - the whole reason for the AoL's existence on screen was to fight Shadows! Of course, if the Shadows are too scared of the AoL then I'll stick with my primary choice.
On another note, among the ships allowed into game 1 are the Avioki and Ikorta, both with ISD 2250. Are they allowed in game 2 as well?
Grand Master Hiff said:
My Friend - it would be an honour to bring forth my fleet of ships dipped in the blood of a thousand Narn.
(If there is a space
)Also if anyone wants a standby fleet they could always ask me to use one of mine if they let me know in advance............
Yeah I get the idea. I'm just clarifying that the "second fleet" thing is essentially an "opt-in" rule per game. If I don't want to use the "second fleet" rule then I can basically veto the rule completely in my games, insist that we both use primary fleets, just like a standard tournament. That way my being too lazy to bring 2 fleets for each game does not give my opponent an advantage.AdrianH said:
Of course if I am Shadows and my opponent's 2nd fleet is Drazi I might give him the option to switch
If I am Shadows and the opponent's main fleet is Drazi, I'll give him the option to switch.
It also means that if I have a choice of two fleets for a game, both with accompanying paperwork, one of them isn't going to be needed. That one is therefore available for someone else to borrow.
Incidentally, your Fleet Designer makes the paperwork so much easier.
It also means that if I have a choice of two fleets for a game, both with accompanying paperwork, one of them isn't going to be needed. That one is therefore available for someone else to borrow.
Incidentally, your Fleet Designer makes the paperwork so much easier.
Another couple of thoughts:
You can use a secondary fleet even if you only have one fleet. The secondary fleet is just a different composition. As a minimal example, a Drazi player includes a couple of Claweagles in his fleet, but he could be facing Shadows, so his secondary fleet is basically the same as the primary with the Claweagles replaced by an Eyehawk.
I've bought my train tickets but the only way I can attend the whole tournament is to stay overnight on Saturday and go home on Sunday, and the only way to get a reduced price ticket is to go home at 4pm on Sunday. Travelodge kicks me out at 12. So does anyone live in Kettering, preferably not too far from the station, and want a follow-up game?
You can use a secondary fleet even if you only have one fleet. The secondary fleet is just a different composition. As a minimal example, a Drazi player includes a couple of Claweagles in his fleet, but he could be facing Shadows, so his secondary fleet is basically the same as the primary with the Claweagles replaced by an Eyehawk.
I've bought my train tickets but the only way I can attend the whole tournament is to stay overnight on Saturday and go home on Sunday, and the only way to get a reduced price ticket is to go home at 4pm on Sunday. Travelodge kicks me out at 12. So does anyone live in Kettering, preferably not too far from the station, and want a follow-up game?
Centauri_Admiral
Mongoose
It seems that myself and andy [shut up hippie] at least will be in attendance; possibly shane as well. Just a reconfirm lol
