The Warmonger-Class Battle Tender

[Terry Mixon]

I use the same thing for Manufacturing Plants as well. Triple the number of workers to triple the output and run 24/7, 20 days per month

Maybe @Arkathan could add a shifts entry for them in the spreadsheet to account for extra workers and more productivity.

 

[MasterGwydion]

Maybe @Arkathan could add a shifts entry for them in the spreadsheet to account for extra workers and more productivity.

I want to build a warship with High Automation to get the crew a +2DM on all shipboard tasks. Expensive as hell, but +2 to everything is nothing to scoff at either.

 

[Terry Mixon]

I want to build a warship with High Automation to get the crew a +2DM on all shipboard tasks. Expensive as hell, but +2 to everything is nothing to scoff at either.

The Hadrian I designed went from BCr 46.978 to BCr 78.449. That's a 65% bump in price for that +2.

 

[MasterGwydion]

The Hadrian I designed went from BCr 46.978 to BCr 78.449. That's a 65% bump in price for that +2.

Yeah, but how much would that +2 to everything alter the odds in combat? Could be huge and be worth the price. Could be nothing and be a complete waste. Needs playtested.

Edit: +2 to hit, to jam, to sensor lock, to repair, to pilot, to Leadership, to every part of every task chain, etc... That could make a huge difference.

 

[Terry Mixon]

Yeah, but how much would that +2 to everything alter the odds in combat? Could be huge and be worth the price. Could be nothing and be a complete waste. Needs playtested.

Let us know how it plays out!

 

[MasterGwydion]

Somebody smarter with the MgT2 rules than Me needs to do that.

 

[Arkathan]

Maybe @Arkathan could add a shifts entry for them in the spreadsheet to account for extra workers and more productivity.

Professional - Custom column. Fluff Text designating the shifts on the Ship's Info Tab.
Done.

 

[Terry Mixon]

Somebody smarter with the MgT2 rules than Me needs to do that.

Me, too.

 

[Sigtrygg]

66.7% of the rolls of 2d give a result in the range 5->9, 25% are in the range 8->9

A universal DM of +2 means you now have a 66.7% chance of rolling 7->11, 38.9% are in the range 8->11

 

[MasterGwydion]

66.7% of the rolls of 2d give a result in the range 5->9, 25% are in the range 8->9

A universal DM of +2 means you now have a 66.7% chance of rolling 7->11, 38.9% are in the range 8->11

Right. Where we are having trouble understanding is, what is the effect of that +2 across entire combats. How significant is it?

 

[Terry Mixon]

Right. Where we are having trouble understanding is, what is the effect of that +2 across entire combats. How significant is it?

It says +2 for shipboard tasks. Might be it doesn’t include combat. Not sure.

 

[MasterGwydion]

It says +2 for shipboard tasks. Might be it doesn’t include combat. Not sure.

Atttacks are tasks. -3 for being unskilled with your weapon? That is a rule for tasks and is used for combat as well.

 

[Terry Mixon]

Atttacks are tasks. -3 for being unskilled with your weapon? That is a rule for tasks and is used for combat as well.

But not the damage rolls.

 

[MasterGwydion]

But not the damage rolls.

No, but a +2 to your attack roll, will get you an Effect 2 higher than you would have had otherwise

 

[MasterGwydion]

No, but a +2 to your attack roll, will get you an Effect 2 higher than you would have had otherwise

How much would this increase Crits?

 

[Terry Mixon]

How much would this increase Crits?

I don't know.

 

[AnotherDilbert]

The Hadrian I designed went from BCr 46.978 to BCr 78.449. That's a 65% bump in price for that +2.

With the smaller crew you can make the rider slightly smaller, saving some cash.

A DM+2 on 2D is massive.

Take a humble laser turret shooting at armour 15:

Average damage is 0.59 with a 6% chance of a crit.


With an additional DM+2 to hit we get:

Average damage is 1.37 with a 23% chance of a crit.
Damage is more than doubled and crit chance is quadrupled.


As far as I have found High Automation is not worth it for warships, but it might be worth it for riders?

 

[Terry Mixon]

With the smaller crew you can make the rider slightly smaller, saving some cash.

A DM+2 on 2D is massive.

Take a humble laser turret shooting at armour 15:
View attachment 2639
Average damage is 0.59 with a 6% chance of a crit.


With an additional DM+2 to hit we get:
View attachment 2640
Average damage is 1.37 with a 23% chance of a crit.
Damage is more than doubled and crit chance is quadrupled.


As far as I have found High Automation is not worth it for warships, but it might be worth it for riders?

With high automation, the 1,200 Hornet-Class Battle Rider I just made was able to drop to 1,000 tons. The standard automation version cost BCr1.249 and the smaller, highly automated version costs BCr1.615. I lost two fusion gun barbettes, but I think that's okay.

MCr366 seems like a deal for a +2 and the benefits it brings.

I'll add the automated version to the zip file when I update it.

 

[Terry Mixon]

Here are the reworked files.

The Warmonger can carry 16 Hadrian-Class Battle Riders, 50 Crossbow-Class Battle Riders, 666 Hornet-Class Battle Riders (or 800 High Automation Hornet-Class Battle Riders if you use them), or a mixture of the three. It also carries 40 400-ton Wasp Gunboats (inspired by the Fiery-Class Gunships) for protection.

The high automation version of the Hornet gets a +2 to all shipboard task rolls which makes it a deadly combatant for its size. It's worth a look on its own and is a steal for the additional MCr366 it adds to the price tag.

The Hadrian has been reworked, so it is a lot tougher and not the default one in High Guard 2022 Update. This one has 30 large meson bays and more weapons. I added Marines to the larger battle riders and a means to deploy them as well.

 

[Terry Mixon]

With the high automation version of the new Hornet-Class Battle Rider coming in at 1,000 tons, and only costing MCr366 more than the 1,200-ton version (I lost a pair of fusion barbettes in the downsize), it's a pretty mean customer with that +2 to all shipboard task rolls.