The Singularity Kickstarter is Live!

[Condottiere]

No.

It means that Yavin/Four actually does get blown up.

 

[Sigtrygg]

Okay, look, I'm excited to see a Subsidized liner in use. But, man, the very fact that I am is because they are absolutely NOT 'quintessential'. Like..I'm not sure there's an actual example of the subsidized liner being a PC ship ever? I know it turns up once in a while as "ooh, fancy, you are on a subsidized liner for this trip' but that's about it.


Unless you got some newfangled definition of "quintessential" as "5th most useful ship for an NPC your characters meet to have"

Assignment: Vigilante - A MT folio adventure that uses a modified liner as the PCs' ship.
It is also the ship used as a location in the most important CT adventure ever written... Signal GK

 

[Sigtrygg]

One thing I'd like to request. You'll have our email addresses at the conclusion of the Kickstarter, so could you run them through your system when the product goes on sale for real so we have the products here, too? This is where my products are, and going to look at the JTAS stuff and other things on a different platform is a pain.

This, so much this.
Previous kickstarters have been delivered via drive thru so those items are not in my Mongoose Library, and I really want them to be

One note though, some people don't use the same email for Mongoose, kickstarter or drivethru...

 

[Sigtrygg]

Well we will have to agree to disagree since the rebellion and hart times(which was part of the rebellion) add a very interesting and dramatic change to the setting.

I agree, I hope that one day Mongoose tackles the rebellion era.

Now I will agree with the Virus being a bad ideal but then again Marc had nothing to do with TNE.

This I disagree with... once again I hope Mongoose visits the TNE timeline I had great fun in that setting.

If you want to play in a monolith unchanging setting just play in the time frame you like but expect everyone to do so.

I would like to see each era offered as their own settings, Singularity may just give us the necessary rationale for that...

 

[Sigtrygg]

Okay I missed that where is it

Update#8

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jtas3/traveller-rpg-the-singularity-campaign/posts/4379625

 

[Sigtrygg]

Do this mean you are officially removing the rebellion and TNE from your timeline. I hope not since a lot of us actually liked the rebellion

Once again I agree.

and think after what you’ve done with FFW you could really do it justice.

Not a fan of the FFW so far, it has yet to give referee's any control over what is happening. We don't know the Zhodani war aims, all we get are MJD's after action reports. Future releases may give the referee more control but that the moment it is doing exactly what I was fearful of.

Now I could easily agree with doing the rebellion than using Marc’s plan for the aftermath instead of TNE and the virus.

Marc didn't have a plan. The MT line was taken over by Charles Gannon post DGP and he did have a plan. I have read it, it is still available in the interwebs and I have it saved.

You’ve been so good at keeping the setting alive and dramatic do turn it into a static uninspiring dead setting like GURPS did.

Agreed, both with Mongoose stewardship and the GURPS dead end

 

[Terry Mixon]

This, so much this.
Previous kickstarters have been delivered via drive thru so those items are not in my Mongoose Library, and I really want them to be

One note though, some people don't use the same email for Mongoose, kickstarter or drivethru...

It would be straightforward enough. Ask in the survey what our Mongoose account email was. Then it will be in the data and can be applied to our items when they go live. That’s better than manually doing it.

As there aren’t a ton of us here, you could even take our Kickstarter email and go the same for our previous support, though that might miss some people with different email addresses for Mongoose.

Drivethrough is good for what it is, but all our stuff is here. Help us get it all together going forward, even if we can’t correct the previous Kickstarters.

 

[AlanMN1]

Once again I agree.

Not a fan of the FFW so far, it has yet to give referee's any control over what is happening. We don't know the Zhodani war aims, all we get are MJD's after action reports. Future releases may give the referee more control but that the moment it is doing exactly what I was fearful of.

Marc didn't have a plan. The MT line was taken over by Charles Gannon post DGP and he did have a plan. I have read it, it is still available in the interwebs and I have it saved.

Agreed, both with Mongoose stewardship and the GURPS dead end

Would you point us to where we can read Mr. Gannon's plan.

 

[tytalan]

Marc didn't have a plan. The MT line was taken over by Charles Gannon post DGP and he did have a plan. I have read it, it is still available in the interwebs and I have it saved.

Actually Marc did have a plan though it was just roughly outlined it was just recently leaked. He planned for each faction to have their own little empires with independent space between most of them. He left it with GDW and DGP before he left to do other projects. MegaTraveller and hard times were moving right in the direction he wanted until DGP went bankrupt (the head of DGP blamed Marc and GDW for this causing the rift). After they regained control GDW (ie Charles Gannon) without Marc went with a scorched earth approach to the setting with the intention of taking control from Marc. Marc even said that TNE wasn’t what he wanted for the setting.

 

[Sigtrygg]

That isn't even close to what happened. Charles' plan was not to go scorteched earth but rather have pocket empires that would begin rebuilding some time in the future.

GDW bowed to fan pressure to have Strephon survive, the original idea was the Strephon leading that faction would be shown to be a robot.

I would like to see Marc's outline, where can I read it?

 

[Sigtrygg]

Would you point us to where we can read Mr. Gannon's plan.

You can find links the files here.

The Road Not Travell(er)ed [Charles Gannon and Post Hard-Times]

I'm pleased to say that Charles Gannon has forward to me 3 of the proposals he originally submitted to GDW dealing with Hard Times and the period to follow. Here is his email and I will attach the 3 proposals in the posts to follow: ------------------------------------------------- Okay; I...

www.travellerrpg.com

 

[MongooseMatt]

One thing I'd like to request. You'll have our email addresses at the conclusion of the Kickstarter, so could you run them through your system when the product goes on sale for real so we have the products here, too? This is where my products are, and going to look at the JTAS stuff and other things on a different platform is a pain.

Right now, there is no easy way of doing that - but this is something we want to sort out.

 

[Terry Mixon]

Right now, there is no easy way of doing that - but this is something we want to sort out.

Excellent. When you do, I hope it can be rolled back to include kickstarters that have already concluded. I’ve already bought add ons from previous Kickstarters again just to have them here because being sure I had the most recent version was a pain in the butt.

 

[tytalan]

GDW bowed to fan pressure to have Stephan survive, the original idea was the Strephom leading that faction would be shown to be a robot.

How does fan pressure to bring Strephon back have any connection to the scorch earth treatment to the imperium? Literally in the original box set the largest number of systems working together was something like 12 systems. Stephan doesn’t show up until later in the time line in order to start the 4 imperium.

 

[Morgoth99]

I kinda like the idea that every big adventure series is happening in its own setting and doesn't mix with others. Because honestly, a lot of them wouldn't play well, given how many big changes the PC's may have made. It also lets people who want to play in the rebellion/hardtimes/virus era do that, without making people who feel happy running their little smuggling operation on tehe Solomani rim feel like someone just dropped a bomb on the setting.

 

[Sigtrygg]

How does fan pressure to bring Strephon back have any connection to the scorch earth treatment to the imperium?

You miss my point. Whatever the folks at GDW had in mind at the start by the time Chuck Gannon took over things had changed from any original plan. The plan to end the Rebellion era was outlined by Chuck, then GDW decided to go with TNE.

Still no link to Marc's original plan?

Literally in the original box set the largest number of systems working together was something like 12 systems.

I have no idea which boxed set you are now referring to.
If MT then this is not true, and if TNE it is not true either.

Stephan doesn’t show up until later in the time line in order to start the 4 imperium.

Strephon didn't start the 4th Imperium. If he survived then the Third Imperium never went away. The Regency, having one of Strephon's descendants is actually a continuation of the Third Imperium.

What is this 4th Imperium of which you speak?

 

[Sigtrygg]

I kinda like the idea that every big adventure series is happening in its own setting and doesn't mix with others.

Yup, but only if done right.

Because honestly, a lot of them wouldn't play well, given how many big changes the PC's may have made.

Imagine that Mongoose writes a book about the Rebellion, but players and referees have free will rather than reading about what a MgT author says happens.
How does Mongoose cater for all possible outcomes of the assassination attempt for example...

It also lets people who want to play in the rebellion/hardtimes/virus era do that, without making people who feel happy running their little smuggling operation on tehe Solomani rim feel like someone just dropped a bomb on the setting.

If a group were adventuring in the Spinward Marches, the events don't impact them much. I would say the same for Solomani rim ethically challenged merchants, until Virus.

And her is the thing, Virus is another example of author fiat, imagine allowing PCs and their referee determining how they deal with it.

 

[Condottiere]

You miss my point. Whatever the folks at GDW had in mind at the start by the time Chuck Gannon took over things had changed from any original plan. The plan to end the Rebellion era was outlined by Chuck, then GDW decided to go with TNE.

Still no link to Marc's original plan?

I have no idea which boxed set you are now referring to.
If MT then this is not true, and if TNE it is not true either.

Strephon didn't start the 4th Imperium. If he survived then the Third Imperium never went away. The Regency, having one of Strephon's descendants is actually a continuation of the Third Imperium.

What is this 4th Imperium of which you speak?

 

[Garnfellow]

Still no link to Marc's original plan?

I think there is something in the first few issues of Tiffany Star, though I think it's only like a sentence or two from Marc in a Q&A and a map of "Peace Finally Comes" dated 1125 in TF1.

 

[Garnfellow]

Here's a more readily accessible source, This is Free Trader Beowulf:

There was a master plan. Marc Miller had intended for the Rebellion to be the central Traveller storyline for the next 10 years, not forever. He even produced a map labelled ‘Peace Finally Comes’ for distribution to writers and lead fans. It depicted a much reduced Third Imperium in 1125, surrounded by a variety of newly formed states (124).