Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
I suppose we could cut two stewards and make the rest work harder.
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I’d guess the captain takes a stateroom for himself on the Velos, and the other 2 are set aside for android occupancy only, at least until it’s revealed to the PCs that the Ventura is actually two ships.
Possible breakdown before the revelation:
Ventura:
Stateroom 1: Stewards 1-3 (hopefully a PC or 2)
Stateroom 2: Stewards 4-6
Stateroom 3: Pilot and Astrogator (likely PCs)
Stateroom 4: Engineer 1 and Gunner 1 (likely PCs)
Velos:
Stateroom 5: Captian
Stateroom 6: Engineer 2 and Medic
Stateroom 7: Gunners 2-3
If the captain takes the Velos for a short side trip those androids assigned staterooms there could try hanging out on the Ventura and try not to attract too much attention to themselves not returning to their staterooms.
Possible breakdown before the revelation:
Ventura:
Stateroom 1: Stewards 1-3 (hopefully a PC or 2)
Stateroom 2: Stewards 4-6
Stateroom 3: Pilot and Astrogator (likely PCs)
Stateroom 4: Engineer 1 and Gunner 1 (likely PCs)
Velos:
Stateroom 5: Captian
Stateroom 6: Engineer 2 and Medic
Stateroom 7: Gunners 2-3
If the captain takes the Velos for a short side trip those androids assigned staterooms there could try hanging out on the Ventura and try not to attract too much attention to themselves not returning to their staterooms.
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
I think the Captain likely doesn’t take side trips. He’s the face of the ship. His absence would be noticed.
There is a single High stateroom amidst the crew Middles, and I’d wager that is his.
The document mentions the possibility of the captain taking a short side trip or two, which informed my thinking, but I could see the captain/baron taking that high state room as well. That does leave another regular crew stateroom on the Velos.
I kind of feel like the design should have all of the crew on the Ventura, but cramming 14 crew into 4 standard staterooms seems a bit much.
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
Ah. Well, I’m sure they cover for him somehow. The design is a bit haphazard.
paltrysum
Emperor Mongoose
Good conversation on the staterooms.
There should be sufficient space for the crew. You've got Captain, Pilot, Astrogator, Engineers x2, Gunners x3, Stewards x6, and a Medic, a total of 15 crew.
You've got eight staterooms to work with. With double occupancy, you can put 9 on deck 3 (including the high stateroom, which ideally is just the captain) and 6 more on deck 1 (the Velos deck).
There's the problem of secret missions in the Velos. If the Travellers leave to take care of business elsewhere, the Ventura will have only 5 staterooms for the duration of the Velos' absence. If there are 6 Travellers, and they all go on the Velos (remember: never split the party!), that won't be a problem, but if there are fewer, that leaves the Ventura Fortuna in a bit of a pinch. Of course, the android crew could conceivably just stay on duty until they need a recharge. But that stretches suspension of disbelief for a group of Travellers who do not yet know the ship's secret.
Then there's the matter of the gunners. While Steward/Gunner might be an odd combination, it is conceivable that the two roles could be combined into single positions, especially among the configurable android crew. One could argue that stewards are needed to pacify the passengers in a situation where gunners are called to duty, but then again, the passengers could be kindly asked to go to their staterooms to wait out whatever situation requires gunners at their stations. There's more to being a gunner than just reporting to a turret for a fight – maintenance, simulations to keep sharp, etc. – but if a single scout can do the piloting, astrogating, engineering and gunning on a scout ship, we might be able to make an allowance for some double duty here.
There should be sufficient space for the crew. You've got Captain, Pilot, Astrogator, Engineers x2, Gunners x3, Stewards x6, and a Medic, a total of 15 crew.
You've got eight staterooms to work with. With double occupancy, you can put 9 on deck 3 (including the high stateroom, which ideally is just the captain) and 6 more on deck 1 (the Velos deck).
There's the problem of secret missions in the Velos. If the Travellers leave to take care of business elsewhere, the Ventura will have only 5 staterooms for the duration of the Velos' absence. If there are 6 Travellers, and they all go on the Velos (remember: never split the party!), that won't be a problem, but if there are fewer, that leaves the Ventura Fortuna in a bit of a pinch. Of course, the android crew could conceivably just stay on duty until they need a recharge. But that stretches suspension of disbelief for a group of Travellers who do not yet know the ship's secret.
Then there's the matter of the gunners. While Steward/Gunner might be an odd combination, it is conceivable that the two roles could be combined into single positions, especially among the configurable android crew. One could argue that stewards are needed to pacify the passengers in a situation where gunners are called to duty, but then again, the passengers could be kindly asked to go to their staterooms to wait out whatever situation requires gunners at their stations. There's more to being a gunner than just reporting to a turret for a fight – maintenance, simulations to keep sharp, etc. – but if a single scout can do the piloting, astrogating, engineering and gunning on a scout ship, we might be able to make an allowance for some double duty here.
Sigtrygg
Emperor Mongoose
Go back to CT.
A steward does not need the steward skill. On a luxury liner I would likely insist on at least level 1
A gunner/steward has been a PC combo since 1977
Can the androids impersonate each other by swapping faces... can they impersonate absent PCs with suitable body mods?
A steward does not need the steward skill. On a luxury liner I would likely insist on at least level 1
A gunner/steward has been a PC combo since 1977
Can the androids impersonate each other by swapping faces... can they impersonate absent PCs with suitable body mods?
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
They won’t be able to impersonate one another. Different builds and those are not morphable.Go back to CT.
A steward does not need the steward skill. On a luxury liner I would likely insist on at least level 1
A gunner/steward has been a PC combo since 1977
Can the androids impersonate each other by swapping faces... can they impersonate absent PCs with suitable body mods?
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paltrysum
Emperor Mongoose
They've got a non-morphable physical form factor, so not exactly, but... you could swap their programming and installed personalities, achieving the same effect!
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
Body swap episode!
I imagine the gunners could pose to the passengers as “assistant” stewards/engineers, since a rationale of the pop up turrets is to disguise the fact that the ship is armed. That disguise fails if the gunners are publicly identified as such.
I did a decent skim of the document, but not a thorough read through. Is it specified where and how the androids recharge? I think at least some of the staterooms would be essentially android only, or if the medic is an android then some recharges could be timed to a “check up” appointment.
I did a decent skim of the document, but not a thorough read through. Is it specified where and how the androids recharge? I think at least some of the staterooms would be essentially android only, or if the medic is an android then some recharges could be timed to a “check up” appointment.
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
If they had quick chargers, an appointment would work, but as the current iteration doesn’t have that (or olfactory sensors to make them fit in better or a bandwidth upgrade to make the designs legal) they could have a recharge plate in their bed.
Yes. I don’t think the AI would equip all such beds in the crew staterooms this way, and in any staterooms shared between PCs and androids those beds would also be unlikely to have a recharge plate. The AI would take such steps to minimize to possibility of its ruse being detected before it’s ready to do so.
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
Then quick chargers and the efficiency option are the best bets. Doubles the run time of the androids and can charge in an hour.
MasterGwydion
Emperor Mongoose
Would you be able to tell that a charger was built into the bed without taking the bed apart? If it was built for this purpose, then it could have a sealed panel under the mattress. Looks just like every other bed on board. Feels the same to sleep in too, unless you are an android, whom it charges.
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
The rules don’t specify how close the android would need to be. @Geir might be able to shed some light on if a mattress would separate the android and power source too much.
MasterGwydion
Emperor Mongoose
Robot Handbook page 120
"Rather than plug into a hard-wired socket, a robot may use an induction plate, standing on or lying in front of it to recharge batteries. This is especially useful for converting biological robots and androids, who can conceal an induction plate in a bed and regain power after a ‘natural’ night’s sleep. An induction plate’s size is related to the robot’s Base Slots and requires a connection to a source of power, whether the local electric grid or a ship’s."
Part of the description says that it is concealable within a bed. It also says that they don't have to be touching.
So, I would assume that it works fine.
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
Then it must be fine. Party on.
Terry Mixon
Emperor Mongoose
Not sure. Range? They might work in a bed or wall, but the placement mentioned by those two options implies a certain size, so soles of feet might not work.
If someone were clever, chairs and butts might be better placement.
