René said:That is why I can't find any use for the detailed (non-fighting) NPCs in some CONAN-RPG books (e.g. Shadizar or Aquilonia): who needs the combat stats of a prostitute?
Why is a 10th level apothecary a better fighter than his 1st level counterpart? Even against a 1st level soldier none of both has a chance...
Imho the space in CONAN-RPG books would be much better used for content than for stats.
But this is just my opinion and my style of play. And I think I hijacked this thread - sorry :wink:
Odovacar's Ghost said:Some of us need the knowledge of prositution. I'm rather happy they kept the info in there.
Raven Blackwell said:Odovacar's Ghost said:Some of us need the knowledge of prositution. I'm rather happy they kept the info in there.
Hmm? I'm not trying to pick a fight here, but I'd be happy to hear a description of how this is going to fit into a Conan campaign in a manner that the players will notice.
Odovacar's Ghost said:Nor am I, cause then you'd have a taste of my Pict slaying axe.
Nor do I really need to expand on my views for why Prostitutes are needed. Just think atmosphere.
Diabolus said:I felt the need for the Expert class as well for Conan (I use the Conan rules for the Judge's Guild Wilderlands setting).
SableWyvern said:I found the section on prostitution in Shadizar was the one thing that really brought home the whole ethos and mood of Shadizar for me.
I was reading through it quite nonchalantly, when I paused to think in real-world terms about what was being discussed. The sick, evil way in which some Shadizaran brothels are run (mainly those that offer virgins to their clientele) dawned on me, and I saw for the first time how the term "Wicked" really is a gross understatement when talking about this city.
When I put that slant on the way I perceived everything else about the city, I had my Shadizar ready for the group.
My group may be at odds with the establishment of Shadizar after it makes a move to 'aquire' Messantia's underworld commerce.
I can understand why some people would rather not see that sort of thing in their RPing material. But I certainly don't think it can be considered as merely gratuitous or irrelvent to the greater product.
OTOH, I don't see stats for prostitutes (or mundane blacksmiths, etc) as necessary -- but understand that some people do want stats for everything, and Mongoose is probably not mistaken to include them.
Raven Blackwell said:Yes, but not to insult Vincent, [I think I've already done that] I never got the feel that Shadizar was 'wicked' by the way he presented the material. Now, I liked Beyond the Thunder River- Vinent has a head for the 'crunchy bits' [i.e hard and fast rules and numbers]. However, you had to read the moral view into it. There was no contrast between Shadizar and a more, shall we say, bearable view of things. Also, you might think it's abhorrant, but I am more than aware that to some people, that sort of thing would seem 'attractive' [The s***bags of humanity that is]. After all, the RL Shadizar, Singapore, exists and does a lot of business in things Vincent can't even write about- such as snuff.