Tactics Threads

[Tank]

Does anyone want any threads dedicated to the tactics of a particular fleet stickied? Ie a place where players new to ACTA can get an idea of how to play a fleet?

Just a random thought I had today brought on by the shadows thread and remembering Hash's excellent shadow doctrine post

 

[Reaverman]

Yep

 

[LordClinto]

I say yes, but it should be a thread with all of the nonsense or off-topic posts edited out if possible. Keep it clean!

 

[Burger]

There should be one (non-sticky) thread for each fleet. Then there should be one stickied thread, which is a list of links to the other topics. That thread should be kept clean.

 

[JoeSmokem]

This Game has tactics!!!

shouldn't that be "This Game has tactics!?!?!?!!11(one)?" :lol:

 

[Tank]

In fact, Mongoose could start it all off by saying what tactics they envisaged being used for a fleet!

 

[katadder]

the game only really has tactics once you add terrain, otherwise its a case of either stating as far away as possible in minbari case or rushing up close in the narns case and everyone else soewhere in between.

 

[Reaverman]

the game only really has tactics once you add terrain, otherwise its a case of either stating as far away as possible in minbari case or rushing up close in the narns case and everyone else soewhere in between.

My God, Katadder posting something thats got nothing to do with the future addition of ACTA 2e

 

[katadder]

i generally do you just have to pick up on the occasional 2e posts which really are quite rare in the scheme of things compared to my post count

 

[H]

I may be mistaken, but hasn't their been a series of Articles in S+P relating to fleet tactics for a few different fleets?

I agree that without any terrain, tactics are often down to rush and crit fish!, I hope in 2nd Ed, they consider revising the terrain rules, so it's more likely to occur.

 

[Triggy]

Tactics are good and good to have a set of threads on. Also, tactics play a very pervasive part of the game where sometimes a player can't work out why he was beaten badly (or blames it on luck when it wasn't) and it just so happens that his opponent was doing all the little things right such as concentrating firepower on a single ship until it's destroyed (particularly against Shadows/Vorlons), making sure as many ships get multiple arcs of fire as possible, etc.

There are many more sets of tactics applicable to each race that most people don't use (e.g. most ISA players I see let their White Stars get caught in a furball in the middle, needless to say, this is not them at peak performance) and it would be good to see threads, linked as suggested above, on this forum.

 

[Locutus9956]

well yes there have been tactics articles in S&P but most of them that were horribly out of date (many refering to the original ship lists which have changed hugely since then) and frankly alot of them seem to be talking complete and utter carp.

Now I'm not saying I'm the worlds greatest strategist or that my ideas are all right and the best way to play a given fleet. If you can make that claim and not know your lying then you should probably seek psychiatric help. I can however spot a tactic that is rubbish a mile off as can most wargamers!

(Im not saying the tactica aticles are all useless but I cant say any of the the S&P tactic articles thusfar have offered me any more useful insights than 'blow the enemy up as quickly as you can and avoid getting shot')

 

[H]

Hadn't actually read them, but dissapointing to hear that about them.

 

[Lord David the Denied]

The Centauri tactics article I saw was very limited. "Get the beam team. Ignore all other ships. Use the beams to wipe out the enemy while advancing at minimum speed in a wide line abreast."

Sure it works, but any fool with eyes could spot that method for themselves, anyway...

 

[WickedE]

I actually submitted a few articles of this exact nature into S & P. Whether they get picked up or not is debatable however.

 

[Commador Q]

i'd say no, because over time due to rules changes the threads become obsoleet. the ISA alone has gone from "an advanced fleet that can win if used right" to "anyone can win with the ISA" to "they seem about right but who would ever fire the lighning cannon". let alone the periodic fighter rebhalances.

Even with off topic coments and flame wars removed tactics threads are somwhat time sensitive.

 

[polemarch]

I am still new to this game however I think that a tactics thread or threads would be fantastic.

What I have found is that although the rules are easy to learn, the game has lots of little nuances which would be good to learn from others experience. i.e. how to combine special actions to the best effect, what works for some fleets and doesn't for others & mission specific ideas.

I would prefer not to have threads which constantly say... this is the only way to pick you fleet and you have to use it this way. There are too many of these with other game systems. Instead it would be great to have contributions which enable you to battle effectively with any mix of ships against any opponent.

Finally it doesn't matter if things change when 2e comes out. The whole purpose point is that tactics will just involve!

 

[Commador Q]

I am still new to this game however I think that a tactics thread or threads would be fantastic.

What I have found is that although the rules are easy to learn, the game has lots of little nuances which would be good to learn from others experience. i.e. how to combine special actions to the best effect, what works for some fleets and doesn't for others & mission specific ideas.

I would prefer not to have threads which constantly say... this is the only way to pick you fleet and you have to use it this way. There are too many of these with other game systems. Instead it would be great to have contributions which enable you to battle effectively with any mix of ships against any opponent.

Finally it doesn't matter if things change when 2e comes out. The whole purpose point is that tactics will just involve!

yes, tactics threads in general are good, but permanately afixing one tactics thread per fleet at the top of the forum isn't a good idea since tactics will evolve as rules evolve. so there's no reason to confuse new players with threads that start out by saying that fighter are usless, then later on claims that fighters are essential to counter enemy figers and later still says fighters are handy but only if they come with a decent warship, becaue the rules governing fighters have changes over the coarse of the thread's existance.

Also if one thread exists for each fleet there is a tendency to just refer everyone to that thread without regard for whether or not the infomation is current.

if you want to see tactics threads for your fleet you can use the serch function, or even start a new thread asking for advice.

 

[polemarch]

Don't sticky the thread, just set up a separate sub forum under ACTA.

Therefore everything is in the same area.