Surcouf Class Submarine?

[DM]

Ok, I have the definitive definition of Surcouf's firing arcs, taken from the official builders drawings. The turret traverse is 135 degrees to either side. Ammunition stowage is 300 rounds total (not 300 per gun as often quoted). The aft torpedo "turret" has a 300 degree arc centred astern, so it can fire port, starboard and aft.

Another interesting fact - immediately forward of the reserve 550mm torpedo stowage was the wine stowage: 5.2 tonnes (5200 litres) plus containers. Presumably consumption had a significant effect on the trim of the boat (not to mention the crew!).

Now that I ahve that I'll finalise a short article for S&P.

 

[BuShips]

Ok, I have the definitive definition of Surcouf's firing arcs, taken from the official builders drawings. The turret traverse is 135 degrees to either side. Ammunition stowage is 300 rounds total (not 300 per gun as often quoted). The aft torpedo "turret" has a 300 degree arc centred astern, so it can fire port, starboard and aft.

Another interesting fact - immediately forward of the reserve 550mm torpedo stowage was the wine stowage: 5.2 tonnes (5200 litres) plus containers. Presumably consumption had a significant effect on the trim of the boat (not to mention the crew!).

Now that I ahve that I'll finalise a short article for S&P.

Great bit of research. I'll drink to that! :wink: [wry] Hmm, I wonder because of the British (somewhat) dominance of political control over the sub if the wine stowage contents wasn't exchanged for rum rations :?. Or if left alone, that the area was subdivided into two areas described as red and white. [/wry]

 

[chaos0xomega]

Excuse me if this comes across as me being a jerk, but why are you being so tight-lipped about the rules!?

 

[BuShips]

Excuse me if this comes across as me being a jerk, but why are you being so tight-lipped about the rules!?

DM, chaos0xomega wants the rules now (hint, hint). :lol:

 

[DM]

I'm not being tight lipped at all. Everything important that will be in the S&P article (assuming ian thinks its worthy of inclusion) has been posted above. All I'm talking about is making the text look all tiddly, putting a couple of decent pictures together and formatting the article.

However, since I don't want to endanger anyone's blood pressure, here's a repeat of where I think we got to with this:

Surcouf Class Submarine

The last of the “cruiser submarines” (the British M class and X Class being other examples), Surcouf was the largest submarine in the world when she was launched. Surcouf grudgingly joined the Free French forces after the armistice but was dogged by poor morale and conspiracy theories. Surcouf was lost with all hands in February 1942. The exact cause of her loss was a mystery; attributed either to a friendly fire incident at the hands of US aircraft, or rammed and sunk by a freighter in a night-time collision. An interesting detail of the design was the inclusion of a wine storage tank, which had capacity of 5,200 litres!

Speed: 4”/2”
Turning: 2
Target: 6+
Armour: 2+
Damage: 5/2
Crew: 5/2
Special Traits: Submersible, Aircraft 1
In Service: 1934

Weapon Range AD DD Special
Turret (2x 8”) 14” 1 1 Forward, Port, Starboard arc only
AAA 5 1 -
Forward Torpedoes 10” 2 3 AP, Slow-Loading
Port/Starboard Torpedoes 10” 2 2 AP, No reloads
Port/Starboard/Aft Torpedoes 10” 1 3 AP, No reloads


Length: 361 ft.
Displacement: 4304 tons
Speed: 18/10 kts.
Crew: 110

 

[BuShips]

Thanks DM. Great job. If I get some Surcouf models (maybe no more than two), I'll nick-name them "Red" and "White" (referencing the wine storage). As for chaos0xomega and his fleet of them, I'll recommend he name them for French wines (Champagne, Chablis, Bordeaux, Burgandy, etc.) :lol: . He can call his fleet the "French Terroir". If reading it as lasy english, one might read terroir by mistake as "Terror", but this would actually mean a group of vineyards (or even vines) from the same region, belonging to a specific appellation, and sharing the same type of soil, weather conditions, grapes and wine making savoir-faire, which contribute to give its specific personality to the wine. I can just imagine the guy at Panzerschiffe doing a double-take when he sees how many Surcoufs are in that order, heh.

 

[chaos0xomega]

YAY!

Now, that's a Patrol ship... right? :twisted:

 

[captainsmirk]

Hmm, I wonder because of the British (somewhat) dominance of political control over the sub if the wine stowage contents wasn't exchanged for rum rations :?.

Ram Russians? Where? :shock:

Whoops, not again...

That's the last time I listen so intently to a Richard Holmes lecture...


Nick

 

[chaos0xomega]

You think maybe the crew was drunk when the surcouf sunk?

 

[BuShips]

You think maybe the crew was drunk when the surcouf sunk?

"Look, those two new Brit political officers can't hold their drinks and puked them all over the deck. I'd better open the hatch and let some fresh air in..." :wink:

 

[chaos0xomega]

LOL as tons of sea water flood the inside of the Surcouf.

 

[BuShips]

LOL as tons of sea water flood the inside of the Surcouf.

Yup, mystery solved. :wink: