Pre-Career education VS Basic training
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mancerbear
Mongoose
Pre career education, by which I'm taking as meaning your background skills, have no impact on you careers or first career service skill inclusion.
If you mean University or Military College, then yes, that is your first career and you only get to pick one service skill from your next career.
At least that's how I read it. Happy to accept that I'm wrong if I am.
If you mean University or Military College, then yes, that is your first career and you only get to pick one service skill from your next career.
At least that's how I read it. Happy to accept that I'm wrong if I am.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
You could become a child prodigy.
AnotherDilbert
Emperor Mongoose
I think they were not deleted, but merged into this forum. Try searching?-Daniel- said:
alex_greene
Guest
"Pre-Career" means just that. It comes before your career. You can go through the pre-career road, go through Uni and Med School, and you go through Boot Camp once you've finished with that road and embark on your first career, even if your first career is at age 26.
Yes, the term "Pre-Career" is clear, what is not clear is what the "boot camp" would be for the first career. Please take a look at the skills received in the Military Academy. You receive the six skills at zero just like you would in boot camp for a first term in a military career. So receiving them again in your second term "First Career" just does not make sense. What is the point of receiving a second set of the exact same skills at zero? See why this seems unclear?alex_greene said:
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
I think ShadowRun does a neater job with modules that cover childhood, nationality, parental background, and education.
You can negotiate with the Dungeon Master what your character's background skills are.
You can negotiate with the Dungeon Master what your character's background skills are.
alex_greene
Guest
I think the advantage of Military Academy comes if you graduate - you gain three of those Basic Training skills at 1, EDU and SOC both increase, if you graduate and graduate with honours.
The biggest advantage of Military Academy is that you have a chance of entering the military career at O1 from the outset with a commission roll. If you graduate with honours, this is assured.
As for the skills, have you ever gone from one learning environment into another one where you are learning the exact same skills? If your guys end up going through boot camp twice, and seem to gain nothing in the way of skills ... that has an unfortunate ring of truth to it.
The biggest advantage of Military Academy is that you have a chance of entering the military career at O1 from the outset with a commission roll. If you graduate with honours, this is assured.
As for the skills, have you ever gone from one learning environment into another one where you are learning the exact same skills? If your guys end up going through boot camp twice, and seem to gain nothing in the way of skills ... that has an unfortunate ring of truth to it.
I do not disagree that the academy has an advantage to it. That was never the question.alex_greene said:
The question remains, regardless of well worded opinions in this and several other threads, has not been answered from an official source that I could find and it would be nice to have an answer. What did they intend? But until then, each GM is free to handle it how they wish.
alex_greene
Guest
It very much looks like boot camp would not be able to teach a graduate from Military Academy anything new. Who knew?
It almost sounds as if the point of Boot Camp was not to teach people skills, more like turn people into soldiers fit for battle, and equip them with just enough knowledge of how to handle a rifle to know which end of the gun to point at the enemy.
It almost sounds as if the point of Boot Camp was not to teach people skills, more like turn people into soldiers fit for battle, and equip them with just enough knowledge of how to handle a rifle to know which end of the gun to point at the enemy.
alex_greene
Guest
Lt Gorman!-Daniel- said:
Thirty years on, and I could not remember his name till just now.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Something about the most dangerous thing being a lieutenant and a map.
alex_greene
Guest
So it looks as if, barring a new skill appearing as a result of an Event, your graduate would only learn the exact same skills he learned at Military Academy, at level 0, which renders them kind of useless to a freshman Academy graduate already brimming with skills.
alex_greene said:
Booter Brown Bars tend to pretty dense, three years running I got stuck with 2nd and 3rd year middies on their Summer Vacation "cruises, my CO's instruction was to gently introduce them to the idea of asking their leading NCOs for how to get stuff down.
alex_greene said:
No, Boot Camp teaches the basic of being a member of a Maritime military service, Basic Hygiene, first aid, history/law, plus basic Team building... Plus basic Fire Fighting for the Navy, Infantry training for the Corp. As for the Basic Training the Army and Air Force go through I can't say....
alex_greene
Guest
I was hoping to get some input from forum members with real Service experience to pitch in.
Can we have some good recommendations from you, while this topic has your interest? If it's good, it could go in as a writeup in The Traveller Companion, down the road - a close look at other pre-career education options, including med school, pre-career psion testing and training to turn out Travellers who are psions from the first career term, and maybe even preteen groups like the equivalent of the Boy Scouts and Brownies.
Basic Training could also be given a good looking at, and if Mongoose are intent on giving us the Companion I'm sure that any future writers dealing with Basic Training options could do with a good look at what is discussed here.
Can we have some good recommendations from you, while this topic has your interest? If it's good, it could go in as a writeup in The Traveller Companion, down the road - a close look at other pre-career education options, including med school, pre-career psion testing and training to turn out Travellers who are psions from the first career term, and maybe even preteen groups like the equivalent of the Boy Scouts and Brownies.
Basic Training could also be given a good looking at, and if Mongoose are intent on giving us the Companion I'm sure that any future writers dealing with Basic Training options could do with a good look at what is discussed here.
