Plasma Torpedos vs. Drones

Not many line warships do have the plasma-D (AFAIK only the KRC and the Romulan conversions of the Klingon D5 and C7, which aren't in the game yet). It's mostly for specialised escorts.

I'd suggest it should receive the ability to fire as an Anti-drone in any turn in which it does not launch a torpedo, and lose the 'Reload' trait.
 
Nomad said:
Not many line warships do have the plasma-D (AFAIK only the KRC and the Romulan conversions of the Klingon D5 and C7, which aren't in the game yet). It's mostly for specialised escorts.

I'd suggest it should receive the ability to fire as an Anti-drone in any turn in which it does not launch a torpedo, and lose the 'Reload' trait.

That would model it pretty well, assuming that the eventual fighter rules make ADDs (and therefore D racks acting like ADDs) reasonably effective versus fighters - which they should be. The D racks were intended to deal with enemy fighters as much or more than as a drone defense.

For now, pretty much a non-issue anyway.
 
Nomad said:
Not many line warships do have the plasma-D (AFAIK only the KRC and the Romulan conversions of the Klingon D5 and C7, which aren't in the game yet). It's mostly for specialised escorts.

I'd suggest it should receive the ability to fire as an Anti-drone in any turn in which it does not launch a torpedo, and lose the 'Reload' trait.

you mean to tell me eventually those Romulans will have access to and the ability "desecrate" my beautiful D5s and C7s as well?!? NOOOO!! Is nothing sacred in the Klingon fleet?
 
Sacred? The Klingons are the ones who sold them the hulls. :P Though it did seem odd that they'd sell the Romulans front-line ships, especially once they started producing the Hawk series (though I suppose their production capacity wasn't up to speed yet). Still, the Klingons need money and the Romulans are willing to pay.
 
GalagaGalaxian said:
Sacred? The Klingons are the ones who sold them the hulls. :P Though it did seem odd that they'd sell the Romulans front-line ships, especially once they started producing the Hawk series (though I suppose their production capacity wasn't up to speed yet). Still, the Klingons need money and the Romulans are willing to pay.

Lol, mostly joking, not really upset or disappointed. I suppose I need to take off the beer goggles and see the Klingon fleet for what it is, more expensive than the Empire that fields it can afford :D. Kind of like the USSR...
 
Sgt_G said:
Steve Cole freely admits he modeled SFU Klingons after the USSR.

So you mean my Klingons will be selling their uniforms whenever they're invited over to a Fed ship? Or stealing silverware from the Fed's officers' mess?
 
GalagaGalaxian said:
Sacred? The Klingons are the ones who sold them the hulls. :P

Well, sort of. The background fluff is that during some confused fighting, three Sparrowhawks got cut off in Klingon space. The Klinks, eager to get their hands on Romulan tech, more or less forced the Roms to accept three D5 hulls in exchange, so you have Rom plasma-armed KD5Rs, and Klingon disruptor-armed RKL Sparrowhawks.

The Roms probably got the best part of the deal :D (They took their cloaking devices home with them, to the Klingon's fury).

In SFB, the Romulan KC7R heavy battlecruiser is only conjectural, a design study that never actually got built in the 'official' history. It's an absolute monster, one of my favourite ships.
 
Totenkopf said:
Sgt_G said:
Steve Cole freely admits he modeled SFU Klingons after the USSR.

So you mean my Klingons will be selling their uniforms whenever they're invited over to a Fed ship? Or stealing silverware from the Fed's officers' mess?

Yep, and they go crazy for jeans and Don McLean albums.
 
Nomad said:
The Roms probably got the best part of the deal :D (They took their cloaking devices home with them, to the Klingon's fury).

Ah, thanks for the tidbit regarding the KD5R, I was curious why the Klingons would sell the Romulans some of their latest War Cruiser design. Selling obsolete D6s and "dime-a-dozen" F5 & E4 hulls make sense, even a few D7s seems ok, but the D5 seemed a bit odd. Though there is the C9/K9, though if I recall the C9 is an updated/modernized version of the C6 dreadnought (while C8s were new constructions), so that is another case of selling an "old hull".

The K10, well, it was never delivered and I'm sure the Romulans would've been made to pay out the nose for that ship.

Also I didn't realize the Klingons "requisitioned" some Sparrowhawks, I take it this was the historic last fate of the remnants of the Romulan task force from the SFB historic mini-campaign featuring a group of cut-off Romulan ships in Klingon territory? Unfortunately I can't remember the details, nor can I seem to find it flipping through the SFB books I have, I know I saw it in here a while back...
 
GalagaGalaxian said:
Also I didn't realize the Klingons "requisitioned" some Sparrowhawks, I take it this was the historic last fate of the remnants of the Romulan task force from the SFB historic mini-campaign featuring a group of cut-off Romulan ships in Klingon territory? Unfortunately I can't remember the details, nor can I seem to find it flipping through the SFB books I have, I know I saw it in here a while back...

Part of the aftermath of Operation Nutcracker, maybe?
 
Nomad said:
GalagaGalaxian said:
Sacred? The Klingons are the ones who sold them the hulls. :P

Well, sort of. The background fluff is that during some confused fighting, three Sparrowhawks got cut off in Klingon space. The Klinks, eager to get their hands on Romulan tech, more or less forced the Roms to accept three D5 hulls in exchange, so you have Rom plasma-armed KD5Rs, and Klingon disruptor-armed RKL Sparrowhawks.

The Roms probably got the best part of the deal :D (They took their cloaking devices home with them, to the Klingon's fury).

In SFB, the Romulan KC7R heavy battlecruiser is only conjectural, a design study that never actually got built in the 'official' history. It's an absolute monster, one of my favourite ships.

So...we got Romulan ships...but no cloaking devices?? Might as well return them then.
 
Sounds like the intention was to get the cloaking devices, but the tricky Romulans outfoxed them. Cloaking devices are over-rated anyways, just ask the Orions. :D

Plus, fluff-wise, the Romulans have enough trouble with the Cloaking Devices in their Kestrels, the hulls just aren't designed for the things (IIRC the power costs for cloaking is much higher in the Kestrels in FedCom/SFB), imagine how the Klingons would fare.
 
In regards to the KC9R etc, remember at the time the Treaty of Smarba was signed, which gave the Roms warp powered ships, all the Romulans had were sublight Eagle series ships. They needed a dreadnought to act as a fleet flagship for their new, warp-powered fleet. If they didn't, they wouldn't be as much of a threat to the Federation and the Feds would not be forced to move ships from the Klingon border. That's why the Klingons did it in the first place. Eventually, with Klingon engineering data and experience with the Klingon ships, they developed the excellent Hawk series.

The Romulans stuck in Klingon space were part of the Roxanna Vulpes squadron, which operated against the Hydrans. The Klingons kept the ships but sent back the cloaks. (Disruptor-armed ships don't really need cloaks, and can't make good use of them anyway). The Romulans later forcibly acquired some Klingon ships that were stuck in Romulan space after Operation Wedge (the drive to the Tholian border by Star Fleet) cut off communication by the two empires.
 
The KC9R wasn't part of the early waves of deliveries under the Treaty of Smarba; it was specifically offered as a sweetener by the Klingon ambassador to Romulus as part of the inducement to get the Romulans to invade the Federation on the Day of the Eagle.
 
Klingon news agency - "We gave the cloaking devices back to the Romlans since Klingon forces have no requirement for them".

Romulan news agency - "The cloaking devices were safely removed with the full agreement of our Klingon allies".

Everyone else's news agencies - YEAH, RIGHT!
 
Iron Domokun said:
The Klingons kept the ships but sent back the cloaks. (Disruptor-armed ships don't really need cloaks, and can't make good use of them anyway).

I can think of some Klingon ships that would be significantly more dangerous if they had a cloak: their D6M (Mauler Cruiser). They also had a D5-hull based mauler that could have used it, being about the same size ship.
 
Nomad -- LOL! Reminds me of the old (cold-war era) joke:

Headline in USSR newpaper:
Russian car takes second place in international race; Americans come in next to last.

Headline in New York Post:
USA beats Soviets in two-car race across Europe!

:roll:
 
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