One shot Jump Drives
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baithammer
Mongoose
Pirates of Drinax Book 2, pg. 160.
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Anonymous
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Linwood said:
The traveller wiki usually has it, but not for this system.
It IS a wiki however which means that anyone can in theory edit it themselves.
Old School
Mongoose
I’m not sure what Mongoose would consider fair use of posting quotes of their copyrighted material. The FFE fair use policy specifically excludes Mongoose, or at least it did last time I looked. Obviously Matt is okay with our activities here, but I wouldnt want to stsrt putting various Mongoose Optional rules on the wiki or in a consolidated document without his blessing.
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Anonymous
Guest
You wouldn't find actual rules in the wiki. Just a note that the systems exist, what they do conceptually (jump once then die), and where to find the rules for them.
Old School
Mongoose
Now that makes perfect sense.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
An index pointing correctly to ship design variations and errata.
baithammer
Mongoose
Useful for hybrid rider designs, as the one shot drives take up less space / cheaper and the hybrid rider then has the ability to jump out if things are too hot in system.
Used with break away hulls, they can then swap out the one-shot driver and its fuel for a replacement pod from a tender.
Used with break away hulls, they can then swap out the one-shot driver and its fuel for a replacement pod from a tender.
Reynard
Emperor Mongoose
The breakaway hull still needs to be 100 tons, correct? Would make for an interesting plot device for the villain to escape at the last minute to fight again.
It could be an emergency spare drive but it still takes a lot of room and credits unless you really expect trouble. It's not something that gets hauled into a cargo hold, along with the necessary fuel, in a very short time. I guess my biggest issue is you really need to be desperate for something that has no extended use without a LOT of luck by the second jump and a death wish by the third.
Saying that, I'd like to hear some innovative and imaginative uses for such an engine.
It could be an emergency spare drive but it still takes a lot of room and credits unless you really expect trouble. It's not something that gets hauled into a cargo hold, along with the necessary fuel, in a very short time. I guess my biggest issue is you really need to be desperate for something that has no extended use without a LOT of luck by the second jump and a death wish by the third.
Saying that, I'd like to hear some innovative and imaginative uses for such an engine.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
At default tonnage, that's a potential three hundred parsec tonnes.
It can't be a secret that when possible, I'll opt for the cheapest way to design a ship; one shot jump drives are rather limited in scope for displacing multi-use ones.
It can't be a secret that when possible, I'll opt for the cheapest way to design a ship; one shot jump drives are rather limited in scope for displacing multi-use ones.
DickTurpin
Banded Mongoose
It is hard to imagine any scenario where a one-shot jump drive is worth building and installing in any ship. About the best I could think of was to move a large structure that will be permanently emplaced in a system, such as the Empress Troyhune or a space station that only needed to hop a few systems away. One possibility is a drone sensor platform sent to monitor a star that was going to go nova shortly where scientists were content to wait for light speed communications to send them the data. But even those instances would be better, and in the long term cheaper, transported by a reusable jump ferry if possible.
baithammer
Mongoose
A little napkin math for a hybrid rider with Jump 1 Emergency Pod ( Using Breakaway Hull for the Jump Pod).
100,000 dt rider with 15,550t Jump Pod. ( Single Shot Jump Drive J -1, Jump-1 Fuel and Super Dense Armour 15) - 13.5% of overall hull
100,000 dt Battle Cruiser, Jump Drive 4, Jump -4 fuel - 50% of overall hull.
The riders can also swap out the used drive for a new fully fueled one from a tender.
100,000 dt rider with 15,550t Jump Pod. ( Single Shot Jump Drive J -1, Jump-1 Fuel and Super Dense Armour 15) - 13.5% of overall hull
100,000 dt Battle Cruiser, Jump Drive 4, Jump -4 fuel - 50% of overall hull.
The riders can also swap out the used drive for a new fully fueled one from a tender.
AnotherDilbert
Emperor Mongoose
Should work fine, but the Breakaway Connectors cost more than you save on the OneShot drive:
The One-Shot drive saves ~550 Dt and GCr ~3, but the connectors cost 2000 Dt and GCr 4.
The One-Shot drive saves ~550 Dt and GCr ~3, but the connectors cost 2000 Dt and GCr 4.
Reynard
Emperor Mongoose
Throwing even a one shot on a rider kinda defeats the purpose of a rider. That's tonnage that could be used for offense and defense against jump ships. I' sure surplus cargo space is a luxury on riders.
The One Shot isn't a prototype, it's a full blown engine of that jump tech level purposely built to be throwaway after one and maybe two jumps. Such a throwaway is expensive. Problem is we once again don't have many concrete information on how a jump engine operates or it's physical description. Could a One shot be constructed in a cargo hold large enough and proper connections be established in a ship not originally build for this purpose? Could it be added as a module on ships so designed or as part of a Configurable Pod from the Harrier sourcebook?
Would you use the ship construction times to mount such an engine? It's not really a plug-in but a heavy modification of an existing ship when not part of a new ship.
Thinking a little more, what about a ship a ship that would be dropped into a system and left to perform a specific operation that could benefit from having more non-jump systems for its task then have the ability to make a single jump exit to be retrieved at a later date.
The One Shot isn't a prototype, it's a full blown engine of that jump tech level purposely built to be throwaway after one and maybe two jumps. Such a throwaway is expensive. Problem is we once again don't have many concrete information on how a jump engine operates or it's physical description. Could a One shot be constructed in a cargo hold large enough and proper connections be established in a ship not originally build for this purpose? Could it be added as a module on ships so designed or as part of a Configurable Pod from the Harrier sourcebook?
Would you use the ship construction times to mount such an engine? It's not really a plug-in but a heavy modification of an existing ship when not part of a new ship.
Thinking a little more, what about a ship a ship that would be dropped into a system and left to perform a specific operation that could benefit from having more non-jump systems for its task then have the ability to make a single jump exit to be retrieved at a later date.
