Let's just call it "Traveller", shall we?
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captainjack23
Cosmic Mongoose
donm61873 said:
Oh.....wow......
yeah, that would be .....I don't have words for it....I'd immediately use it on... "Love beach" by ELP.....oh yeah. Yeah.
helpmethisiscaptainjacksbrainhe doesntknowknowimwritingthisBUT GET ME THE HELLOUTOFHERE
Jeff Hopper
Mongoose
Ishvar said:
Bring back Bryan Gibson and David Dietrick!1!!!
(Sorry, it just slipped out...)
For me, it's all Traveller, but I call it by the particular ruleset to say which ones are in effect (and also to denote it by setting, i.e. MT is the Rebellion, T4 is the Founding, TNE is Hell and etc.). Doesn't mean that I consider any of them any less Traveller, of course.
Sorry, mate, but this ship's full!
captainjack23 said:
Sorry, mate, but this ship's full!
But using negative portrayals - even if not consciously used - will cause people to become defensive and take them as insults. Nothing new or even specific to Traveller, RPGs, or gaming - just human nature. And I've seen mailing lists and webboards much worse than this one, or the TML in this regard. The aphorisms "If you can't say anything nice..." or "You catch more flies with honey..." are appropriate, especially on the internet where due to the 'distance' factor they are so easy to not follow. I find it a laudable goal to - if you can't find or bring yourself to find a positive thing for 'the other side' - just focus on your view's positives. Just MHO.
I'll second this. Now, being an engineer and therefore slightly 'picky' about terminology (gee, imagine that!), I will probably prefer to use "Mongoose Traveller", just to be clear, when it gets down to rules or source materials. But just "Traveller" is fine when talking about the game (or OTU in my mind) in general. But that's just me.
When here, I think I can safely assume "Traveller" means "Mongoose Traveller" when people write it, and that may just mean some clarification becomes necessary at times. But I expect that people will save a lot more electrons and fingerstrokes just saying "Traveller" (especially here) than it will take to clear up misunderstandings later.
donm61873 said:
That does sound cool! Hmmm... (googles...) Journey's Escape album.... Skorpion's Blackout (former Zhodani prisoner?)... ZZTop... Buggles (Age of Plastic).... The Kings (Amazon Beach) .... The Police... Vangelis (Hypothesis) ... but man there were some ugly ones too.
See also http://www.sleevage.com
And then what about classic scifi book cover art from the pulp or classic eras.... Astounding or Amazing Stories... http://www.sfcovers.net/Magazines/ASF/navbar.htm
Art from the Stewart Cowley books... (hmm that'd probably be for the T4 cover generator )
OK. That may be taking this too far...
I must admit that I like the MegaTraveller Player's and Referee's manuals' covers, but the Rebellion sourcebook's one is among the worst of the eighties... 
By the way cbrunish, Patton was really a great general but he is also well known for having said a lot of really stupid things... :wink:
I think it is better to spare you (and the others) all the stupid things some french sods, whether generals or civilians, have said about the Americans.
By the way cbrunish, Patton was really a great general but he is also well known for having said a lot of really stupid things... :wink:
I think it is better to spare you (and the others) all the stupid things some french sods, whether generals or civilians, have said about the Americans.
Ishvar said:By the way cbrunish, Patton was really a great general but he is also well known for having said a lot of really stupid things... :wink:
I think it is better to spare you (and the others) all the stupid things some french sods, whether generals or civilians, have said about the Americans.
I second this from the German side. We really should avoid to step on
each other's toes with stuff like that signature, I think.
Gruffty the Hiver
Banded Mongoose
... unless we're talking about Belgians and Belgium....Ishvar said:
.... ZzzzzZzzzzzZzzzzzzzzzZzzzzz ....... :wink:
captainjack23
Cosmic Mongoose
rust said:Ishvar said:By the way cbrunish, Patton was really a great general but he is also well known for having said a lot of really stupid things... :wink:
I think it is better to spare you (and the others) all the stupid things some french sods, whether generals or civilians, have said about the Americans.
I second this from the German side. We really should avoid to step on
each other's toes with stuff like that signature, I think.
Ditto from the American side. And if the Germans and the French can agree on something......
Coming late to this.
Who coined the term MongTrav? Me. Why? Because it amused me.
As I recall the first printing of T20 was 5250 books and sold out fairly quickly. Hunter Gordon and I had a bet on when we'd sell the 10,000th copy. Far as I know it never happened. There was a second printing, either 1000 or 2000 copies, and presumably that sold out. Then the PDFs.
Me, I refer to Mongoose Traveller as just Traveller because it's the current, mainstream version. Other versions including sort-of-still-in-print older versions are identified by their usual abbreviation.
True, people on COTI may not be referring to the same book when they say Mercenary but COTI is - sorry and all - an irrelevance these days. The community is stil active (but not all that big) and there are moderators keeping order but QLI is dead in the water with no-one at the helm, a license that is not renewable even if anyone were willing to write for them, an an oceanload of fail lapping over the gunwhales.
Negative? Yeah. QLI is the latest in a long chain of companies that owe me money. Which is why I only work with Mongoose these days (and my own Avenger. Mongoose honour their obligations. I respect that and it keeps my cats fed.
Who coined the term MongTrav? Me. Why? Because it amused me.
As I recall the first printing of T20 was 5250 books and sold out fairly quickly. Hunter Gordon and I had a bet on when we'd sell the 10,000th copy. Far as I know it never happened. There was a second printing, either 1000 or 2000 copies, and presumably that sold out. Then the PDFs.
Me, I refer to Mongoose Traveller as just Traveller because it's the current, mainstream version. Other versions including sort-of-still-in-print older versions are identified by their usual abbreviation.
True, people on COTI may not be referring to the same book when they say Mercenary but COTI is - sorry and all - an irrelevance these days. The community is stil active (but not all that big) and there are moderators keeping order but QLI is dead in the water with no-one at the helm, a license that is not renewable even if anyone were willing to write for them, an an oceanload of fail lapping over the gunwhales.
Negative? Yeah. QLI is the latest in a long chain of companies that owe me money. Which is why I only work with Mongoose these days (and my own Avenger. Mongoose honour their obligations. I respect that and it keeps my cats fed.
MJD said:
This may well be true. I am a somewhat opportunistic creature, with only
a limited amount of time to use for visiting forums. As a result I drift to
where I find the most interesting content and the most ideas I can "bor-
row" for my own setting. And I tend to visit CotI less and less often now-
adays.
weasel_fierce
Mongoose
Meh.
Its Mongoose Traveller, because Im referring to the Traveller game done by Mongoose.
In my experience, plain saying "traveller" is likely to mean "little black books" to most people, rather than any other version.
Its Mongoose Traveller, because Im referring to the Traveller game done by Mongoose.
In my experience, plain saying "traveller" is likely to mean "little black books" to most people, rather than any other version.
Maybe. It's possible that the people playing the Mongoose release will come to be more numerous than the folks who're still using LBBs. To the former, all these acronyms may be confusing and may actually put some people off getting into the game. Largely for their benefit, I tend to refer to the version people are buying right now as Traveller, and older rules sets by their acronyms.
CosmicGamer
Mongoose
I usually use MGT or Mongoose Traveller when the audience is mixed.
In a forum or thread specifically about this version of Traveller, I am not as specific.
When referring to rules and content, I'm starting to use the term Traveller Core Rulebook.
With additional releases it will soon be necessary to define which individual publication you are referring to and not just which version of Traveller.
In a forum or thread specifically about this version of Traveller, I am not as specific.
When referring to rules and content, I'm starting to use the term Traveller Core Rulebook.
With additional releases it will soon be necessary to define which individual publication you are referring to and not just which version of Traveller.
