Hawkmoon: Living Armor

[El-tee]

In the Hawkmoon corebook there is an artefact spell called Living Armor that essentially makes power armor in Tragic Europe. I have two questions:

1) Is there an example of this artefact in the History of the Runestaff or Chronicles of Count brass? I have read the former and do not recall it.

2) Does the idea of having the Order of the Lion in possesion of a Codex for this spell and a secret laboratory, essentially keeping themselves hidden by having the warriors they use to attack Londra wearing Living Armor (with the Grand Constable's being the only 20 Magnitude Armor in existence) sound as cool /plausible to anyone else as it does to me?

Note: I just got the corebook today and Granbretan is on it's way, what I know of the Lions comes from what I have seen in reviews and on this board. I may be comepletely misreading what the Lions are capable of.

 

[Mongoose Gar]

1) Is there an example of this artefact in the History of the Runestaff or Chronicles of Count brass? I have read the former and do not recall it.

There's no canonical example, but I do harbour certain suspicions about the Warrior in Jet and Gold...

 

[toothill man]

the picture of the warrior in the rulebook seems to suggest that he is a construct

 

[Wolverine]

From reading the spell, it's a suit of armour that can be worn by a person. It enhances a character's speed and characteristics.

 

[El-tee]

Wolverine: I believe he was referring to the Warrior in Jet and Gold being a construct and not a man.

Toothill: I ask you to think back to the Sword of the Dawn, the warrior nostalgically touches the sword and alludes to the fact that a long time ago he may have been the original wielder of the blade.

 

[atgxtg]

1) Is there an example of this artefact in the History of the Runestaff or Chronicles of Count brass? I have read the former and do not recall it.

There's no canonical example, but I do harbour certain suspicions about the Warrior in Jet and Gold...

I used to rember just who he was under all that armor. There was a few clues in some other EC books that gave it away. I think he was Seperitz from the Elric series. I think the Warrior in "Jet and Gold" shows up in the "Dragon in the Sword" and gives him name there. But I haven'T read any EC books for awhile.

Back to the topic, I don't think there is any mention of powered armor in any Hawkmoon book, but there is enough weird science-sorcery tech to make the leap of faith.

 

[Loz]

My favourite fantasy powered armour is Tomb the Iron Dwarf's armour (Viriconium by M. John Harrison): essentially a sodding huge, powered, exoskeleton that predates Ripley's loader from Aliens by a couple of decades.

There's loads of other good stuff in the Viriconium series that's nickable for Hawkmoon and Elric.

 

[atgxtg]

My favourite fantasy powered armour is Tomb the Iron Dwarf's armour (Viriconium by M. John Harrison): essentially a sodding huge, powered, exoskeleton that predates Ripley's loader from Aliens by a couple of decades.

There's loads of other good stuff in the Viriconium series that's nickable for Hawkmoon and Elric.

Does that predate Starship Troopers?

 

[duncan_disorderly]

My favourite fantasy powered armour is Tomb the Iron Dwarf's armour (Viriconium by M. John Harrison): .

Does that predate Starship Troopers?

No. According to Wikipedia, the first Virconium novel "The Pastel City" was published in 1971. Starship Troopers was first published in 1959

 

[Loz]

No. According to Wikipedia, the first Virconium novel "The Pastel City"

And a cracking story it is too.

The armour Tomb wears is far more akin to the power loader of Aliens, hence the analogy, rather than the battle suits worn in Starship Troopers.

 

[Vagabond]

Hmmm, the Warrior in Jet and Gold - could he be Gaynor before turning his
back on the Balance ... hmmmmm



-V

 

[Krimson]

Hmmm, the Warrior in Jet and Gold - could he be Gaynor before turning his
back on the Balance ... hmmmmm



-V

I can't remember what book it is, somewhere in the latest trilogy beginning with Dreamthief's Daughter, that Paul "Gaynor the Damned" von Minct is referred to as the Eternal Predator. There is a point where his ever present mask is removed to reveal that his face is an amalgamation of all his incarnations. Like Elric, Rose von Bek (in her incarnation as the living Rose from a universe of plant people that Gaynor set fire to) is often at odds with him, and dispenses her own brand of thorny Justice in the Multiverse of Michael Moorcock Graphic Novel. Aside from that slight tangent, I don't think that Gaynor and the Warrior in Jet and Gold are one in the same. Though I suppose MM would be the best person to ask.

 

[Vagabond]

Hmmm, the Warrior in Jet and Gold - could he be Gaynor before turning his
back on the Balance ... hmmmmm



-V

I can't remember what book it is, somewhere in the latest trilogy beginning with Dreamthief's Daughter, that Paul "Gaynor the Damned" von Minct is referred to as the Eternal Predator. There is a point where his ever present mask is removed to reveal that his face is an amalgamation of all his incarnations. Like Elric, Rose von Bek (in her incarnation as the living Rose from a universe of plant people that Gaynor set fire to) is often at odds with him, and dispenses her own brand of thorny Justice in the Multiverse of Michael Moorcock Graphic Novel. Aside from that slight tangent, I don't think that Gaynor and the Warrior in Jet and Gold are one in the same. Though I suppose MM would be the best person to ask.

Well, it is stated that Gaynor was a once Champion of the Balance before
choosing Chaos, and in the original Elric chronicles, Gaynor is represented
by his armour and helmet, even upon his "death", all that is left is an empty
suit of armour. Knowing how the Multiverse is immune to time, it is a nice
possibility that Gaynor could have been the Warrior in Jet and Gold.

I'll have to ask Mike

-V