Change to TAS Conditions - Use of AI

[Endie]

i found it. you are right.

some of the artirsts they pay, use ai to create first impression mock-ups. Then they choose one and the artist create one starting from 0.
Also:
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Here is the important bit though. Once the composition has been selected, the generated piece is put to one side and the actual final piece is created from scratch.
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But the art is done by the artist not the ai.

so for me no ai art or wrtting is used.

and regarding the adoption will be widespread, maybe. but maybe is a passing trend as a lot of things i have seen during my life, saying they would be the wonka fabulous ultimate thing and two years later are deep forgotten.

Only time will see

"This is the line of death, you shall not cross."

[Crosses line]

"This is the new line of death. This, you shall never cross!"

So for you, art is the technical implementation, not the initial inspiration?

On the passing fad thing, quite a lot of us have been around a long time and remember these crazy computer passing fads:

 

[CyborgPrime]

Since I’m being referred to yet again, let me respond once more.

I didn’t “skew” or “manipulate” anything. When I first came across that poll, it had around a dozen votes and leaned roughly two to one against AI. All I did was share the public link so that more Traveller fans could weigh in (something several others did as well). There were no rules against sharing it, and everyone who voted still had to create a legitimate forum account. That’s not manipulation; that’s community engagement.

What actually happened is that the poll started inside a small echo chamber, and once more voices joined, the results began to balance out. Then, right as the “yes” votes were about to overtake the “no’s,” the poll was abruptly shut down. Closing it at that moment and then calling me disingenuous for broadening participation is, frankly, ironic.

I can’t control who joins the forum or how they vote- only whether they know the discussion exists. If the goal was truly to “take the temperature” of the Traveller community, it doesn’t make much sense to turn off the thermometer the second the reading starts to change.

If someone’s still nursing a grudge months later, it’s probably because their ill-conceived echo-chamber poll didn’t survive contact with the broader Traveller community. Nothing is stopping anyone from posting a new one today, except perhaps the realization that the Traveller community isn’t as much of an echo chamber anymore.

I can see you’re still sore about how it played out, and I genuinely hope you can get over it soon - because at the end of the day, the rest of us have moved on.

 

[Enkelas]

"This is the line of death, you shall not cross."

[Crosses line]

"This is the new line of death. This, you shall never cross!"

So for you, art is the technical implementation, not the initial inspiration?

On the passing fad thing, quite a lot of us have been around a long time and remember these crazy computer passing fads:

i did say:

" i will never buy something that has ai art or writing".

the line is not crossed. the artist creates the whole picture from 0. she draws it. there are no input commands and voila a picture.

that is the line for me and we always be.

Artist can inspire in whatever they want, as sometime art is abstract. everything is important.

drawing on your own, doing a picture and not using something that outputs everything on a screen, paper or whatever, that is art. Giving passion to it and not to "make me some picture of a cat with a banana" input.

if you want to use it, go ahead, be free. i respect you about that.

then if mongoose does not want ai art on their books, then respect it. it is their resolution.

and about the picture, well, diskman where the summun on their time and no one use them now.
sometime things perdure, sometime dont

 

[Zarpaulek]

"This is the line of death, you shall not cross."

[Crosses line]

"This is the new line of death. This, you shall never cross!"

So for you, art is the technical implementation, not the initial inspiration?

On the passing fad thing, quite a lot of us have been around a long time and remember these crazy computer passing fads:

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Yet you seem to have forgotten the "Dot Com" bubble collapse and how just a few years ago the same people hawking LLMs were claiming that NFTs or "the Metaverse" were going to be the next big thing.

 

[Endie]

Yet you seem to have forgotten the "Dot Com" bubble collapse and how just a few years ago the same people hawking LLMs were claiming that NFTs or "the Metaverse" were going to be the next big thing.

Lawl I was a software engineer during the dotcom bubble and what I remember is that somehow the internet is still in use, Amazon and the rest are still incredibly profitable, and that just because some internet stocks were overvalued didn't stop the technology itself proving to be the greatest technological revolution in my lifetime (so far).

Everyone spouting the whole "tut tut I'm so wise it's a bubble" line - importantly, even the shoeshine boys - forgets that fact: just because the stocks are overpriced and some companies will undoubtedly fail doesn't mean that the revolution won't be real in the end. There was a railway bubble and crash and yet somehow I'm booked onto a train in a couple of weeks.