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Anonymous
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I cannot find this situation covered in CT or Mongoose,
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Apparently in the new T5 campaign which I do not have Regina is TL 17 and black globes are common in the military. So someone should find out before the admiral’s pilot bumps the launch when docking and the automatic defence screen comes on.
ShawnDriscoll
Cosmic Mongoose
Moppy said:
They are very rare to have even one of them. But they do pass through each other just fine. Don't let them touch any ships though.
AnotherDilbert
Emperor Mongoose
Moppy said:
It is covered in T5 (B2 pp182-3), basically:
Collisions between Globe and Globe or matter is inelastic (no rebound). The kinetic energy is absorbed by the Globe.
If they are turned on so that they intersect the Globes have no effect in the intersecting volume, at least if one Globe is within the other.
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AnotherDilbert said:
Edit: Actually let me change this. The globes are hollow. The shell can be projected at a distance and does not touch the generator. No special interactions occur unless the shells physically touch, at which point their kinetic energy is absorbed. A globe can be projected within the protected area of another globe. Is this correct?
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
The Universe reboots when two Black Globes intersect.
Seriously, though, when active, both Black Globes are sucking energy, and since there's nothing to suck, there's no interaction.
However, this would alter if one or both of the Black Globes brush across the other's activated Black Globe generator, and probably the pumped up capacitors.
The next instance would be if one or both Black Globes are flickering.
Seriously, though, when active, both Black Globes are sucking energy, and since there's nothing to suck, there's no interaction.
However, this would alter if one or both of the Black Globes brush across the other's activated Black Globe generator, and probably the pumped up capacitors.
The next instance would be if one or both Black Globes are flickering.
AnotherDilbert
Emperor Mongoose
No, it's the same, except the absorbed energy is radiated away instead of stored.Linwood said:
AnotherDilbert
Emperor Mongoose
Yes, the effect is the surface of a sphere.Moppy said:
Yes, the globe is a sphere centered on the generator.Moppy said:
Yes, if they are separated by distance.Moppy said:
Yes.Moppy said:
I take this to mean that the surface intersected by another globe does not absorb energy, even if one bubble is not centered inside the other.T5 said:
If one globe is completely within another globe, it has no effect.
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So in theory if we had a "black globe on a stick" we could poke it through another black globe and communicate by poking in a pattern.
They probably also have some morse code pattern that they can send by throwing rocks, to tell the operator it's safe to shut down.
Depending on what happens if a generator passes through vs being already inside, you might be able to send physical objects across a globe by englobing them?
What is the interaction of black globe and stasis?
They probably also have some morse code pattern that they can send by throwing rocks, to tell the operator it's safe to shut down.
Depending on what happens if a generator passes through vs being already inside, you might be able to send physical objects across a globe by englobing them?
What is the interaction of black globe and stasis?
AnotherDilbert
Emperor Mongoose
Colliding globes stop dead in an inelastic collision.Moppy said:
If we can get close, and then start an intersecting globe, we could presumably open a hole in the surface.
Incoming energy is absorbed and the absorption can be detected, so a simple modulated comm-laser works fine.Moppy said:
Stasis globes have specific note that they can't be disturbed or interrupted from the outside.Moppy said:
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AnotherDilbert said:
A stasis field this would pass through a black globe without being affected therefore.
I assume the globe has nothing to absorb, or something infinite it can't absorb? I am guessing nothing, but then that means part of the globe field is missing. (Assuming the generator itself is positioned to not affected by the stasis).
Lasers vs dune shields sounds more logical the more I think about this. :-0
https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Shield
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Also come to think of it, I don't understand why you can't maneuver with a black globe up
If it was activated on a planet, the generator would soon overload from the rock underneath it, but the user could walk on the surface inside the globe shell and carry the globe.
If you used a rocket engine on a space craft, you should also be able to maneuver inside the globe, and you're carrying the generator so the bubble should move. You'd also absorb the rocket exhaust but that's not relevant.
Anyway I should not think about these things too much.
If it was activated on a planet, the generator would soon overload from the rock underneath it, but the user could walk on the surface inside the globe shell and carry the globe.
If you used a rocket engine on a space craft, you should also be able to maneuver inside the globe, and you're carrying the generator so the bubble should move. You'd also absorb the rocket exhaust but that's not relevant.
Anyway I should not think about these things too much.
AnotherDilbert
Emperor Mongoose
Moppy said:
No, it's only the inside of the stasis globe that can't be disturbed. The field globe itself will be stopped by a black (or any) globe.
AnotherDilbert
Emperor Mongoose
Grav fields don't penetrate the globe.Moppy said:
You wouldn't get anywhere, as the globe is stuck in the planet.Moppy said:
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AnotherDilbert said:
It glues itself to the spot when activated?
What happens as the planet orbits?
AnotherDilbert
Emperor Mongoose
It does not absorb matter; inelastic collision. If it tries to absorb the planets velocity it blows before the planet notices.Moppy said:
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Given that a ship doesn't change velocity when it activates its black globe, leads me to believe normal gravitational forces act on the generator.
Similarly globes in planetary labs, or orbital labs, can be turned on or off, and don't drift off into space burning a hole through the lab in the process when they become immune to orbital forces. The techs can continue to stand around outside the field, trying to poke it to work out what it is.
And as these structures or ships drift, the generator must drift with them.
Ergo it should be possible to move an activated generator so long as your propulsion system isn't cancelled out by the black globe.
Thus you should be able to walk around the lab carrying a globe generator, moving the generator with you (and burning a hole in your lab in the process) while it projects a bubble around you (large enough to not affect the user, of course).
Similarly a standard chemical rocket should also function if the system is completely within the field.
The regular maneuver drive is somehow negated by the black globe field as noted in the rules.
Of course black globes don't have to make sense so who knows?
Similarly globes in planetary labs, or orbital labs, can be turned on or off, and don't drift off into space burning a hole through the lab in the process when they become immune to orbital forces. The techs can continue to stand around outside the field, trying to poke it to work out what it is.
And as these structures or ships drift, the generator must drift with them.
Ergo it should be possible to move an activated generator so long as your propulsion system isn't cancelled out by the black globe.
Thus you should be able to walk around the lab carrying a globe generator, moving the generator with you (and burning a hole in your lab in the process) while it projects a bubble around you (large enough to not affect the user, of course).
Similarly a standard chemical rocket should also function if the system is completely within the field.
The regular maneuver drive is somehow negated by the black globe field as noted in the rules.
Of course black globes don't have to make sense so who knows?
