Future warfare

Moving on to TL9, which is where conjecture replaces projection.

Infantry - The more powerful and robust laser rifle replaces the laser carbine and has a much greater lethality. Most lasers are multi-color to defeat smoke and aerosol obscuration. Laser ablative clothing is available for infantry, although expense precludes universal use. Inhelmet AR, communications, light amplification, and passive IR detection equipment are universally in use.

Infantry support - RAM grenades are also equipped with follow-up sensors. Mortars and RAM grenades incorporate early ballistic adjustment to confuse counter-battery radar equipment.

Artillery - Heavy conventional artillery is gradually replaced by mass driver (MD) guns, large magnetic linear accelerators which, although requiring large amounts of power, are capable of long range, high muzzle velocities, and rapid rates of fire. All artillery munitions are capable of preprogrammed deviations in ballistic paths to confuse counter-battery radar. Course deviation programs are provided by more sophisticated computer fire control systems. Counter-battery radar itself is upgraded to allow multiple simultaneous tracks and graceful loadshedding
capabilities, making it virtually impossible to overload by massed fires. Improved sound and flash ranging arrays are available, and are supplemented by satellite surveillance, all integrated by the fire control system. Larger missile systems incorporate
AI, inertial, and televisual guidance. Ladar (laser based radar) is used in addition to phased array radar.

Vehicles - The main armament of all MBTs is now stabilized in all planes and incorporates automatic range-target adjustments from the ballistic computer. Main armament remains In the 12-15 cm range, mostly hyper-velocity smooth bores, with the capability of launching small nuclear warheads, although expense, round storage, and doctrine make this a non-standard round. All tanks use auto-loaders on the main armament providing a much higher rate of fire. MBT's generally mount improved cavity-B armor, while many light armored vehicles and armored personnel carriers are partially or wholly encased in cavity-A armor. Gun/launchers can deliver a large variety of rounds, but still cannot deliver hyper-velocity munitions of the giant 12-15 cm guns. Wider use is made of the air/raft, generally armed and armored and referred to in the military configuration as the grav sled. It is still primarily used as an airmobile personnel carrier. All vehicles incorporate ground surveillance radar. An improved laser tank mounts its armament in a fully rotating turret, the armament consisting of either a pulse gatling laser or beam laser, in either case multi-colored, enabling it to defeat most smoke and aerosol obscuration. Toward the end of the period the first grav tanks are introduced.

So we now have laser rifles, grav sleds, mass drivers, and grav tanks... so how does the battlefield change?
 
Moving on to TL9, which is where conjecture replaces projection.

Infantry - The more powerful and robust laser rifle replaces the laser carbine and has a much greater lethality. Most lasers are multi-color to defeat smoke and aerosol obscuration. Laser ablative clothing is available for infantry, although expense precludes universal use. Inhelmet AR, communications, light amplification, and passive IR detection equipment are universally in use.

Infantry support - RAM grenades are also equipped with follow-up sensors. Mortars and RAM grenades incorporate early ballistic adjustment to confuse counter-battery radar equipment.

Artillery - Heavy conventional artillery is gradually replaced by mass driver (MD) guns, large magnetic linear accelerators which, although requiring large amounts of power, are capable of long range, high muzzle velocities, and rapid rates of fire. All artillery munitions are capable of preprogrammed deviations in ballistic paths to confuse counter-battery radar. Course deviation programs are provided by more sophisticated computer fire control systems. Counter-battery radar itself is upgraded to allow multiple simultaneous tracks and graceful loadshedding
capabilities, making it virtually impossible to overload by massed fires. Improved sound and flash ranging arrays are available, and are supplemented by satellite surveillance, all integrated by the fire control system. Larger missile systems incorporate
AI, inertial, and televisual guidance. Ladar (laser based radar) is used in addition to phased array radar.

Vehicles - The main armament of all MBTs is now stabilized in all planes and incorporates automatic range-target adjustments from the ballistic computer. Main armament remains In the 12-15 cm range, mostly hyper-velocity smooth bores, with the capability of launching small nuclear warheads, although expense, round storage, and doctrine make this a non-standard round. All tanks use auto-loaders on the main armament providing a much higher rate of fire. MBT's generally mount improved cavity-B armor, while many light armored vehicles and armored personnel carriers are partially or wholly encased in cavity-A armor. Gun/launchers can deliver a large variety of rounds, but still cannot deliver hyper-velocity munitions of the giant 12-15 cm guns. Wider use is made of the air/raft, generally armed and armored and referred to in the military configuration as the grav sled. It is still primarily used as an airmobile personnel carrier. All vehicles incorporate ground surveillance radar. An improved laser tank mounts its armament in a fully rotating turret, the armament consisting of either a pulse gatling laser or beam laser, in either case multi-colored, enabling it to defeat most smoke and aerosol obscuration. Toward the end of the period the first grav tanks are introduced.

So we now have laser rifles, grav sleds, mass drivers, and grav tanks... so how does the battlefield change?
By TL-9, why are you using laser weapons at all? Why not just have the troops use tiny drones with explosives? TL-9 is sufficiently advanced of what We have now to make this more than just feasible. Think about. Soldiers carry a "magazine" of 1-inch drones with tiny explosives. Could be remotely piloted or could be fire and forget. They can navigate around obstacles, use cover, work in coordination or individually. Soldiers no longer need to leave cover to kill the enemy. They are very hard to detect and by TL-9, they are likely also soundless and produce no heat, if the article I read about using a weird neutral electron quasi-particle for almost no heat generation during electrical transmission is any indication.
 
If we want to have a game with biological sophonents in it, we have to assume that AI will not progress very much or very fast in the future. This is unrealistic, but necessary to have a game. In 10 or 20 years, this will all look very silly, but since we will all be uploaded to the collective consciousness by then, I suppose it won't matter.
One way to emphasise the sophonts is to assume that as AIs become more sophisticated they go nuts. An advantage to this approach is it's canonical from way back with Adventure 1, Kinunir
 
One way to emphasise the sophonts is to assume that as AIs become more sophisticated they go nuts. An advantage to this approach is it's canonical from way back with Adventure 1, Kinunir
With Singularity, I am not sure if this could still be thought of that way. Unless perhaps that all creatures that achieve sentience are insane? That would be hard to argue against. lol
 
Lasers get a drone tracking accessory.
As long as they are not hand-held weapons, that works pretty good. Although, if the drone tracking thing connects to the soldiers augments so that it can control the soldier's movements to track, aim, and fire? This would work very, very well as you describe for hand-held weapons as well. Otherwise, I am guessing that, hitting a 1" diameter, fast-moving object with an irregular flight path, would be a herculean task. Even harder if the drones were stealth.
 
By TL-9, why are you using laser weapons at all? Why not just have the troops use tiny drones with explosives?
Likely because if you can equip an infantryman with a laser rifle your antimissile/antidrone system can take care of most large drone threats. Smaller sensor drones would not carry the ordnance, being made as small as possible to avoid detection.
TL-9 is sufficiently advanced of what We have now to make this more than just feasible. Think about. Soldiers carry a "magazine" of 1-inch drones with tiny explosives. Could be remotely piloted or could be fire and forget.
And there will be antidrone drones, antidrone point defence, antidrone EW... drones are not that much of a threat in the real world now. That said I can see the practicality of this.
They can navigate around obstacles, use cover, work in coordination or individually. Soldiers no longer need to leave cover to kill the enemy. They are very hard to detect and by TL-9, they are likely also soundless and produce no heat, if the article I read about using a weird neutral electron quasi-particle for almost no heat generation during electrical transmission is any indication.
Sounds interesting, can you find anything similar at around TL9 in Mongoose sources? Part of the reason for this thread if for suggestions just like yours.
 
One way to emphasise the sophonts is to assume that as AIs become more sophisticated they go nuts. An advantage to this approach is it's canonical from way back with Adventure 1, Kinunir
The Third Imperium restrict robot brains much more than the Robots book describes. The Ziru Sirka stagnated at TL11, my headcanon has it due to them not wanting to go to TL12 because machine intelligence becomes unsettling for them. The Third Imperium restrict robot brain development because of terrorist using robots... the Hive federation warbots are completely illegal to import into the Imperium.
 
Likely because if you can equip an infantryman with a laser rifle your antimissile/antidrone system can take care of most large drone threats. Smaller sensor drones would not carry the ordnance, being made as small as possible to avoid detection.

And there will be antidrone drones, antidrone point defence, antidrone EW... drones are not that much of a threat in the real world now. That said I can see the practicality of this.

Sounds interesting, can you find anything similar at around TL9 in Mongoose sources? Part of the reason for this thread if for suggestions just like yours.
I found this in the Robot Handbook, but it is TL-8 and TL-10

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The relevant part would seem to be the "built-in tactical engine to allow it to function effectively in battlefield conditions."

There could be more. This is just off the top of my head. So, this may be more of a TL-10 as opposed to TL-9. In which case, my bad. :P
 
The Third Imperium restrict robot brains much more than the Robots book describes. The Ziru Sirka stagnated at TL11, my headcanon has it due to them not wanting to go to TL12 because machine intelligence becomes unsettling for them. The Third Imperium restrict robot brain development because of terrorist using robots... the Hive federation warbots are completely illegal to import into the Imperium.
If it is more of a cultural or legal thing than it should not be tied to TL. TLs are supposed to be objective things. Take jump drive for example. Jump 1 is TL-9 minimum. You may be TL-12 and still not have FTL, but you would still be a TL-12 civilization. The same way the Imperial Army is supposed to be still TL-15, but using TL-12 weapons and armor. lol. Mongoose set the precedent, I am just using it eventhough I disagree with it.

Edit - Or like modern day cloning. We have the technology to advance our cloning research, but the law prevents that research. So, in this case, it is not a TL issue so much as a Law Level issue.
 
As long as they are not hand-held weapons, that works pretty good. Although, if the drone tracking thing connects to the soldiers augments so that it can control the soldier's movements to track, aim, and fire? This would work very, very well as you describe for hand-held weapons as well. Otherwise, I am guessing that, hitting a 1" diameter, fast-moving object with an irregular flight path, would be a herculean task. Even harder if the drones were steal
This will not work. No matter the augments the human (and all physical bodies) cannot handle the stress of tracking and firing at drones that way.
It is too easy to defeat by having a swarm of drones flying in a pattern to have the weapons tracking them and breaking the arms/extremities off as the weapons shift to track.

An independent drone defense could work and be carried but the person is just a pack mule for the device.
 
This will not work. No matter the augments the human (and all physical bodies) cannot handle the stress of tracking and firing at drones that way.
It is too easy to defeat by having a swarm of drones flying in a pattern to have the weapons tracking them and breaking the arms/extremities off as the weapons shift to track.

An independent drone defense could work and be carried but the person is just a pack mule for the device.
It's basically sporting clays, except a computer is doing the aiming and firing.
 
The Third Imperium restrict robot brains much more than the Robots book describes. The Ziru Sirka stagnated at TL11, my headcanon has it due to them not wanting to go to TL12 because machine intelligence becomes unsettling for them. The Third Imperium restrict robot brain development because of terrorist using robots... the Hive federation warbots are completely illegal to import into the Imperium.
Yes, this is the key point re "Why no AI". It is a social restriction in the OTU not a technological restriction. Humans decide they don't trust robots and will limit their advancement. (this has happened in many different human cultures historically for various technologies)

This could easily happen in our timeline - we're just at the beginning...
 
It's basically sporting clays, except a computer is doing the aiming and firing.
Yes, but if the computer is aiming and firing a handheld weapon, or anything that relies on the sophonts body being moved then the counter to that is simply faster more erratic movement by the drones. Picture the old Tom and Jerry, Bugs Bunny, etc. twisted up into a knot.

A machine can twirl and spin a dome of lasers to fire back, but controlling the body firing would (IMO) quickly be countered by drone flight pattern changes which negates the use of the tactic.
 
Yes, but if the computer is aiming and firing a handheld weapon, or anything that relies on the sophonts body being moved then the counter to that is simply faster more erratic movement by the drones. Picture the old Tom and Jerry, Bugs Bunny, etc. twisted up into a knot.

A machine can twirl and spin a dome of lasers to fire back, but controlling the body firing would (IMO) quickly be countered by drone flight pattern changes which negates the use of the tactic.
Angular velocity is all that is required. What you are talking about only happens at point blank range, where the angular velocity gets extreme. No one could hit sporting clays at 5' either. Humans can't move that fast but change that range to 30 feet or 50 feet and it works fine.
 
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