crossmlk said:
PS: Al you didn't pay anything for the PDFs they're free and you received all our products for free because I sent them to you myself.
This is not the forum for mud slinging or lies. Truth be told (and my credit card records as well as DriveThru RPG) will show I received ONE item for free, the rest were bought paid-for and downloaded before I did more than join the TS forums.
Additionally, my opinions were stated to the staff of TS on many occasions in voice conversations so they are not new nor unknown to them. In fact, yes those opinions were what caused us to part ways. Unfortunately I see many things differently than Mr. Cross and I stand by what I've said including the results/player comments of running the two free adventures (with sound files) at two separate gaming conventions for a total of 36 separate players. My reviews elsewhere are much more detailed than I felt appropriate to post here (would take about five maxed-out posts if I figure things correctly).
I note that the person starting this thread evidently (ephealy) runs/owns the website Mr. Cross has offered a discount through (loot), and then AndreW as a close non-staff association working with (on the T/S forums) CaptainJonah on a set of adventures. Pretty much IMO more pushing people with very tight ties to the company to come an 'pump up the Mongoose Forums about T/S' as I was pushed to do several times.
I also note that I found about 7 or 8 other reviews for T/S products (core book primarily) only two are mentioned in this thread and one is a podcast interview. Here are all I could find, including one the others don't point to (RPG.net). Let me note that most of them are 2009 (year of the produce copyright) and are ONLY of the CORE book. As far as I can find nothing has been reviewed since.
Most of these comment on shortfalls/disappointments that they hope are going to be corrected in future products.
* RPG.net:
Shannon Appelcline
* Atomic Array:
Twilight Sector (Atomic Array 034)
* Game Cryer:
Review by Chris Perrin
* The Zhodani
Base: Twilight Sector - A new TU
* Apathy Blogs:
Something New For Traveller
* Rogue Puppet:
A Role Player’s Dream is Discovered
* Examiner.com:
Review by Michael Shorten
Some things I have said in my reviews & comments came primarily straight from Mr. Cross as part of voice chats where I asked many questions trying to understand the setting and what was the plan, what was coming out. In one sentence he summed it up: "We are not populating a massive galaxy with a bunch of worlds that are simply one line UPP entries, we are creating a few worlds in the Twilight and Crescent sectors and detailing them out over time. A small playground with great detail." Unfortunately, that's never said in anything published up till now. Not much more I can say due to NDA restrictions.
For all who enjoy the T/S materials, I'm glad for you and more power to you. We're all different, we like different things, our 'critical eye' works differently than anyone else's. I had great hopes when I started reading the T/S core book but as I got into later material not so grand. I didn't find out the truth of the setting (see quote above) until after I was brought on board, and once on board I showed totally loyalty, and when I saw things were very much not what I was lead to believe I stated my case knowing Mr. Cross would have no choice but to drop a loud independent voice from the staff.
I wish T/S well and great success, hoping they can find their feet and hear the voices that don't agree with his viewpoint. Best of luck Mike, Chris, and John.
