Traveller Release Schedule 2024

[Grognardia]

Yeah, I'd rather just pay $10 for a PDF with the two new adventures. I already have the other three and don't care if they're updated.

 

[coolAlias]

That's all understandable frustration, for sure.

I'm new to Traveller, so I'm all in favor of any chance to pick up bundles of stuff, but I've definitely felt the same way in other game systems.

Edition 1, and now 1.5, and 2, and 2e revised, etc. From the consumer perspective, it can certainly get tiring having our things obsoleted, and yet iterating on a design is how it gets better (usually...), so I don't know that there's a good answer.

In this particular case, additionally releasing the 2 new adventures as standalone PDFs does seem like a reasonably simple compromise.

 

[Limpin Legin]

What Mongoose did with Marches was to withdraw the separately published series and represent it as a single bound set of adventures. Assuming they will adopt this approach with GR next year, as there is no info to the contrary, then the three current GR's will be withdrawn without attempting to release fourth and fifth adventures, to the public, as part of the series. So, accordingly, the only way to gain forth and fifth adventures would be to buy the single bound set of 5. I hope I am wrong. More information could be a selling point for the Adventure series.

 

[Otronatis]

Edition 1, and now 1.5, and 2, and 2e revised, etc. From the consumer perspective, it can certainly get tiring having our things obsoleted, and yet iterating on a design is how it gets better (usually...)

"The best edition is the one you have" There doesn't need to be a conflict here, actually : while it's good for a system to keep iterating for future generations, it's also good not to trash a perfectly good <rpg edition/computer/car/whatever really> just because there's a new one with incremental upgrades. What we need to fight is the urge to replace good things with latest things.

 

[MasterGwydion]

"The best edition is the one you have" There doesn't need to be a conflict here, actually : while it's good for a system to keep iterating for future generations, it's also good not to trash a perfectly good <rpg edition/computer/car/whatever really> just because there's a new one with incremental upgrades. What we need to fight is the urge to replace good things with latest things.

As long as you are not fighting the urge to replace good things with better things.

 

[agentwigggles]

Why are adventures that were originally *partially* published as separate publications, now turning up in an indivisible set of five adventures binding?

Isn't this change of binding disconcerting for early purchasers, who like me, bought into several series of separate adventures, before some of those adventures started appearing in the successor binding of the indivisible set of five adventures?

I mean, I welcome the opportunity of binding a set of five adventures into one volume, just don't you think you should have offered us that first, instead of duping us into buying a series of separate publications, only to later confront us with a single volume that is a partial duplicate of what we have already purchased? Hmmm. I now have this issue with both The Marches Adventures and the Great Rift Adventures. If this is a trend, I shall stop buying single adventure publications, and just wait and buy them as and when they turn up as a bound set.

How can they offer the 5 adventure volume first?
They dont have all the adventures done then release them peice meal then doe a group volume.

 

[tytalan]

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I tried to cobble a map together as well.

Foreven is also in the sector construction box set for MgT2

 

[Limpin Legin]

How can they offer the 5 adventure volume first?

I shall refrain from commenting on what their business operations are like. And I don't care if the adventures are published as a separately bound series, or a single bound set of adventures. All I know is that they did deliver all-in-one with Project Bayern, Deepnight and Mercenary boxsets. If they couldn't do that, then you'd expect these releases to be published "piece meal."

My main point is in the third paragraph you mention. I'll just quote myself:

I mean, I welcome the opportunity of binding a set of five adventures into one volume, just don't you think you should have offered us that first, instead of duping us into buying a series of separate publications, only to later confront us with a single volume that is a partial duplicate of what we have already purchased? Hmmm. I now have this issue with both The Marches Adventures and the Great Rift Adventures. If this is a trend, I shall stop buying single adventure publications, and just wait and buy them as and when they turn up as a bound set.

Ah! I see where I was misunderstood now!! Let's look at the options being discussed. The options appear to be:

1. Time release as a series of 5 adventures separately bound publications.
2. Release as a set of 5 adventures bound into a single publication.
3. Both 1) and 2), with 2) occurring after 1) has finished being released.
4. Start doing option 1), then switch to option 2) after two adventures in the series have been released AND permanently withdraw the option one series from sales.

My **complaint** is that I am seeing only option 4), which is the least favourable, and is basically using all the "option one customers" as gunnie pigs, and duping us into buying a series that is not faithfully and completely produced as a series.

Hope that is a bit more obvious.

 

[Grognardia]

Foreven is also in the sector construction box set for MgT2

Kind of. That's just an example of filling out a blank sector. Nothing official.

 

[MongooseMatt]

Why are adventures that were originally *partially* published as separate publications, now turning up in an indivisible set of five adventures binding?

In a nutshell, to reduce the number of SKU (different products) in the range, because too many causes warehouses and distributors to have a fit!

When we first released those three adventures, we had no intention of doing this but, as we come up to reprint them, it makes an increasing amount of sense. So, we will do what we did with Marches Adventures - update the art and layout for the existing adventures, and add some brand new titles.

Hope that makes sense!

 

[MongooseMatt]

As long as you are not fighting the urge to replace good things with better things.

The games designer's sickness...

 

[Limpin Legin]

In a nutshell, to reduce the number of SKU (different products) in the range, because too many causes warehouses and distributors to have a fit!

When we first released those three adventures, we had no intention of doing this but, as we come up to reprint them, it makes an increasing amount of sense. So, we will do what we did with Marches Adventures - update the art and layout for the existing adventures, and add some brand new titles.

Hope that makes sense!

Thanks for the explanation. Although Reach series is 8 and Naval series is 4, does your decision now mean you all will no longer produce more than three standalone adventures in one particular series? It seems the only advantage of buying into the series is to gain early access to the adventures, before they are duplicated and released as a set ?(with your brand new titles added into the set.)

 

[MongooseMatt]

Thanks for the explanation. Although Reach series is 8 and Naval series is 4, does your decision now mean you all will no longer produce more than three standalone adventures in one particular series? It seems the only advantage of buying into the series is to gain early access to the adventures, before they are duplicated and released as a set ?(with your brand new titles added into the set.)

No, not at all - when we compile the Reach Adventures, it will be the existing Adventures 1-5.

 

[MasterGwydion]

The games designer's sickness...

It is not a sickness limited to game designers. lol

 

[Limpin Legin]

No, not at all - when we compile the Reach Adventures, it will be the existing Adventures 1-5.

Excuse me, but have you overlooked Reach Adventures 6,7 & 8? Namely: Exodus, The Last Train Out of Rakken-Goll and Makergod?

 

[Geir]

Excuse me, but have you overlooked Reach Adventures 6,7 & 8? Namely: Exodus, The Last Train Out of Rakken-Goll and Makergod?

Maybe there needs to be a #9 and #10, to make a second compilation.

 

[MasterGwydion]

Excuse me, but have you overlooked Reach Adventures 6,7 & 8? Namely: Exodus, The Last Train Out of Rakken-Goll and Makergod?

I am only now realizing that Makergod is a Reach Adventure and not part of PoD. Oops! Man, I feel slow!

 

[Anstett]

I am only now realizing that Makergod is a Reach Adventure and not part of PoD. Oops! Man, I feel slow!

The new version of Makergod tweaks a couple of minor things.

 

[OriginalCaruso]

Good point - not just artwork is updated, content is added or changed too

Personally I’d rather see fewer single adventures and more books collating older catalog series

And a book crammed full of adventure vignettes too please. There’s never too many good ideas out there to throw a spanner in my players plans, or side-track them into something intriguing

 

[Seffix]

For bookcase aesthetics and consistency, I prefer HC collections to individual SC adventures. That said, adventures are not really my thing since I expect my players to automatically wander off in some hitherto unexpected direction -- out of curiosity rather than malice -- and their urges almost always make my game more interesting for me than any plan or script.