Tobia post Aslan Invasion?

[MasterGwydion]

On the Travellermap, Tobia is shown to have fallen to the Aslan during the Rebellion. Has anything been written about this other than just on a map in the Rebellion Sourcebook? What happened to the Duke of Tobia and all of the other nobles in fallen territory? Who stayed? Who fled? What planets were left without nobility after Norris retook the Imperial part of the Trojan Reach?

 

[J. L. Brown]

Alexander Quinn, Duke of the Trojan Reach sector (and Tobia sub-sector, I think) died by his own hand shortly after (the loss of) the battle of Tobia (in 1118-ish?). The Duchess of Gazulin (Sharik Arcadia) took over after his death, and pivoted from direct military action to diplomatic maneuvers which got the Aslan fighting among themselves. I am not sure if Tobia was ever re-taken from the Aslan, but their offensive was halted. Source is Traveller's Digest #20 (Thanks you, Garnfellow, for the reminder!)

According to the TD#20 map, in 1120 everything on the rimward-side of the line passing through Gazulin & Mirage is Heirate territory.

 

[Garnfellow]

Unfortunately no single source provides a great overview of what happened in the Trojan Reach, but an outline can be gleaned from several different places. Rebellion era information for any sector is usually pretty sketchy, though we've got more info on the Reach than most areas. The problem with this period is a lot happened in a lot of places in a relatively short time between 1116 and 1130. Further, the "Ihatei Invasion" as described doesn't make a lot of sense.

Travellers' Digest #20 (Digest Group Publications, 1990) has an overview of events up to 1120 or so, and a little more can be gleaned here and there in other issues of the Digest. The Solomani and Aslan (Digest Group Publications, 1991) supplement, set in 1120, also has some details.

The Regency Sourcebook (GDW, 1995), set much later, does have a high level summary of the Rebellion events in the region. Martin J. Dougherty's excellent 1248 supplements Out of the Darkness (Avenger, 2006) and The Spinward States (Avenger, 2008) advance the Aslan timeline past the Virus. Although some of these books may (or may not) have been retconned, I think MDJ's post-Rebellion timeline is pretty compelling. The Regency Sourcebook and the 1248 books are probably the best places to check for details on what happened after Norris retook them.

Finally, Chris Griffen's The Glorious Empire (Mongoose, 2021) has a sidebar that really helps rationalize how the Aslan grabbed so much territory so quickly. Highly recommended.

TD20 and The MegaTraveller Journal #3 (Digest Group Publications, 1992) provide 1120 UWPs for all Trojan Reach systems. TD20 also has a map of the sector with borders and trade routes. The 1120 dataset up on Traveller Map is a blend of 1105 planetary and stellar data (which was updated through the T5SS review) and the 1120 allegiance, starport, political, and TL data. (The Regency Sourcebook also has 1117 data for Pax Rulin, Sinfal, Gazulin, and Tobia.)

 

[Geir]

This is a region where the results of a PoD campaign can really make a difference. If a new Kingdom of Drinax held the line, perhaps with Imperial support, Tobia could be saved. Also, a place worthy of a Pocket Empires-like campaign setting to cover the years after the PoD climax (unless of course the Travellers took GeDeCo's money and ran, setting themselves up as bigwigs on Theev - and even then, a Pocket Empire based on Theev could be a thing...)

I don't see any indication of the timeline moving into the Rebellion (or Lorenverse) era, but if it did go with the Rebellion timeline, I really prefer Marc's original end of the war in 1125 scenario leading into a Hard Times era and none of that virus nonsense. Even though I did like the way Martin laid it all out in 1248.

 

[collins355]

According to TNE/Regency Sourcebook, the Aslan occupied Tobia subsector and Sindal for a good ten years. Regency forces arrived in 1131 and negotiations led to a pact against Virus and subsequent withdrawal of many Aslan from previously occupied worlds, plus some rough justice against Aslan in places by the previously subjugated humans. The Regency 128th Fleet is headquartered at Tobia, which is a TL15 world in TNE. A second Regency fleet, the 204th, is headquartered at Ayidem.

 

[Sigtrygg]

I am still of the opinion that the whole Aslan invasion was a cover story for Norris inviting loyal Aslan to come and take territory in the Spinward Marches.
Pre FFW - lots of dissent vs the Imperium even on member worlds. Imperial corruption, authoritarianism was rampant.
The FFW came along just in time so the Imperium could change the narrative to one where they are the white hats, the yanks in space.
Post FFW - Norris is now in ascendancy over Delphine but is in need of a stable power base and loyal troops. Delphine is not an idiot, her family have been "sector dukes" for a reason. The IN is not necessarily loyal to Norris.

So he makes an offer to the Aslan. Aslan are pretty pragmatic, they will swear allegiance to higher authority if it gets them territory.

He will grant land to Aslan in return for loyalty.

Then Norris finds out about the assassination, odd how there were all those Aslan ships just waiting to invade...

 

[MasterGwydion]

Alexander Quinn, Duke of the Trojan Reach sector (and Tobia sub-sector, I think) died by his own hand shortly after (the loss of) the battle of Tobia (in 1118-ish?). The Duchess of Gazulin (Sharik Arcadia) took over after his death, and pivoted from direct military action to diplomatic maneuvers which got the Aslan fighting among themselves. I am not sure if Tobia was ever re-taken from the Aslan, but their offensive was halted. Source is Traveller's Digest #20 (Thanks you, Garnfellow, for the reminder!)

According to the TD#20 map, in 1120 everything on the rimward-side of the line passing through Gazulin & mirage is Heirate territory.

I know on the Travellermap by 1201, Tobia was in the hands of the Regency. Who became the new Duke of Tobia in the Regency?

 

[J. L. Brown]

I know on the Travellermap by 1201, Tobia was in the hands of the Regency. Who became the new Duke of Tobia in the Regency?

No idea.

 

[collins355]

I know on the Travellermap by 1201, Tobia was in the hands of the Regency. Who became the new Duke of Tobia in the Regency?

In the TNE timeline, Dave made the Regency into a pseudo-democracy with the nobility reduced to a sort of sham. Some people liked this, some people hated it.
Dave's intention apparently was for the Regency to expand outwards back into the shattered Imperium to eventually meet (and clash?) with the expanding Reformation Coalition from Old Expanses way. This "Land Grab" was just getting underway when GDW folded in the mid-1990s.