Time Limit to Traveller License?

DFW said:
captainjack23 said:
Is that the prequel "Traveller II : attack of the clones " or the original trilogy version "Traveller: II the empire strikes back ? "
Or possibly "Traveller II: The wrath of.....Don" ?

I heard it was going to be based on the works of Terry Pratchett, just to make sure it is more realistic than TNE.

You are a very naughty man, and I'd chide you for being provocative if I wasn't giggling so hard.

And it's SIR Terry Pratchett. His SOC hit 11, apparently. And he has a +3 sword. Really: http://docgrognard.blogspot.com/2010/10/sir-terry-pratchett-knight-companion-of.html
 
DFW said:
I heard it was going to be based on the works of Terry Pratchett, just to make sure it is more realistic than TNE.
I have to admit that I am sometimes contemplating a guest appearance of
A CERTAIN PERSON in my settings to deal with the characters ... :twisted:
 
rust said:
DFW said:
I heard it was going to be based on the works of Terry Pratchett, just to make sure it is more realistic than TNE.
I have to admit that I am sometimes contemplating a guest appearance of
A CERTAIN PERSON in my settings to deal with the characters ... :twisted:

:shock:
 
dmccoy1693 said:
Vile said:
Oh, if only Basic Roleplaying were OGL ... 8)
MRQ1 had an OGL SRD. IIRC, someone made an OGL version of old school BRP from the MRQ1 SRD.
IIRC YRC, - IIUC you are talking about OQ? However, that is quite a specific distillation of rules and therefore not the "toolkit" with the huge number of options in the Big Gold Book of BRP. It would probably be possible to create the same sort of thing as an OGL system with SRD (from scratch or using OGL MRQ1), but it would be a huge undertaking and the end product would not be directly linked with an established system.

The Big Gold Book came to mind because it is very much like an SRD - lots of rules, many options, and very little "fluff".
 
8)

The licence is for ten years and is renewable. FYI - Classic Traveller the first time around went tens years and Gurps Traveller also had ten years of continuous publications also.

Personally, ten years for an edition is fine, and the talk so far is that Mongoose Traveller will renew in 2017 and stay with the same core system also.

Classic Traveller starting around 2002 recieved a republication from FFE and Mongoose Traveller is quite compatable with Classic Traveller products.

I think your store should carry the game and if you liked Classic Traveller you should like the Mongoose version too.
 
Blix said:
Dave Nilsen explained all the reasons why they made their decisions about TNE's direction here.

Wow, I never read this piece before. Mr. Nilsen seems a little bitter about the whole thing.
But, cyber-K'kree? Ruled by Lucan of Borg? Really?
 
Bense said:
Blix said:
Dave Nilsen explained all the reasons why they made their decisions about TNE's direction here.

Wow, I never read this piece before. Mr. Nilsen seems a little bitter about the whole thing.
But, cyber-K'kree? Ruled by Lucan of Borg? Really?

Yep. Avenger Games put out a tie up of the whole Virus/Hard Times/New Era/Space Viking thingie ... 1248? Can't remember the title, and it went even further and in even more detail.

I actually reviewed it favourably on RPGNow, but the supplement is no longer available. Now, given that I think Virus is crap, I was rather impressed by 1248 (?) - the main problem, outside of the Virus issue, was the telescoping of events. As a Historian, and given the physical constraints of travel and commo tech in the 3I and successorts, it seems to me that the events that occur in it over less than a century would, in reality, take several centuries or more to actually play out.

It's probably worth tracking down - though, AFAIUI, it was probably only ever available as a PDF download.

(Even the bits with the Virus silliness were internally consistent, if entirely unbelievable from my POV ... so if you actually *liked* Virus, it would be a good acquisition ... and if you didn't, but liked to Hard Times/Space Viking trope, then you could pretty much ignore the Virus parts, stretch out the event timeline, and it remains pretty good).

Phil
 
E.D.Quibell said:
They are all on the TNE 2 CD from FFE here:

http://www.farfuture.net/Contents%20CDROM%20TNE-2.pdf

Regards,

Ewan

Yep, 1248-6 "Out of the Darkness" is the one, IIRC.

As noted, its a good value buy, for fans of Virus and, equally, for those who didn't like it at all but liked the Collapse/Star Viking sequels.

With the caveats noted previously, which are easily fixed (just as the Virus elements can be easily ignored/replaced with something more to your taste if that's your desire)

Phil
 
DFW said:
aspqrz said:
In effect, any SRD based game has become immortal.

I wonder if anyone has actually realised this on the publisher's side? Or realised the possible and likely consequences?

Phil

Yes, WotC realized it and thus, "D&D" 4 isn't SRD'd...
Um.. try going here: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/welcome and you will find
The Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition Game System License (D&D 4E GSL) is a license that allows third parties to use certain intellectual property owned by Wizards of the Coast with the company’s permission in order to create products compatible with the 4th Edition of the Dungeons & Dragons Roleplaying Game.

The System Reference Document (SRD) is a reference document detailing Terms, Tables and Templates that are available for license under the GSL. The SRD is an appendix to the GSL.

This site maintains the most current versions of the D&D 4E GSL, SRD, and supporting documentation including the Statement of Acceptance form and Compatibility Logo. It also provides answers to Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs).

This site and the documents on it will be updated from time to time.
D&D 4th Ed Reference Material

(Updated March 2, 2009)
* Game System License (131 kb PDF)
* System Reference Document (2.2 mb PDF)
* GSL FAQ (83 kb PDF)
* Statement of Acceptance (75 kb PDF)
* Notice of Termination (76 kb PDF)
* GSL Logo (1.8 mb PDF)
* GSL B&W logo (290 kb PDF)
 
I assume what DFW is talking about is the fact that D&D 4e is not OGL. My understanding is that GSL is much more restrictive.
 
Vile said:
I assume what DFW is talking about is the fact that D&D 4e is not OGL. My understanding is that GSL is much more restrictive.

Yes, from what I originally read of it, IF a company wanted to use the GSL they had to stop selling any product using the OGL. Plus other large restrictions. From a person inside WotC, this was to stem the hemorrhaging of players. They took a huge fanbase hit when 4.0 came out and people ran to D&D clones.
 
DFW said:
Yes, from what I originally read of it, IF a company wanted to use the GSL they had to stop selling any product using the OGL. Plus other large restrictions.

The GSL was originally like that but it has since changed. Currently you can actually publish a book of D&D 4E and Pathfinder (and even Traveller) stats in the same book. The license is still unfriendly and with WotC moving more towards essentials, something not covered by the GSL, it is not exactly worth it anymore (IMO).
 
DFW said:
Vile said:
I assume what DFW is talking about is the fact that D&D 4e is not OGL. My understanding is that GSL is much more restrictive.

Yes, from what I originally read of it, IF a company wanted to use the GSL they had to stop selling any product using the OGL. Plus other large restrictions. From a person inside WotC, this was to stem the hemorrhaging of players. They took a huge fanbase hit when 4.0 came out and people ran to D&D clones.
Yes... it prohibited any software for 4th ed SRD AND the part about never again for the 3rd ed OGL was: once a product was released under 4th ed, it could never again be published under the third ed OGL.

That made it highly unlikely many existing 3.x products would ever see the light of day as a 4th ed product.
 
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