The use of AI generated content in TAS products

Sigtrygg said:
How about you stop with the personal attacks?

Calling someone morally bankrupt when you don't know them is a personal attack by your own definition.
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Thanks but his words hold no weight. it is the same everywhere they resort to personal attacks then claim the other is in the wrong. You know Water, Ducks back.
 
AndrewW said:
To avoid derailing the other thread.

Would people prefer a TAS product had no art rather then using AI generated art?
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Really, I miss the minimalist art design of Classic Traveller and other 80's ttrpgs. Simple black and white line that adds a little flavor or explanation was what I liked. It gave me an idea then let my imagination do the rest. Even the line art in GURPS Traveller was preferable IMO to glossy full color illustrations. Ttrpg books are meant to be read, used, and handled, not to be coffee table art books.
 
Anyway, regarding AI art in Traveller and gaming products.

Art created by artists without the use of generative AI is preferable, but the real issue for me is quality. Generative AI can be a very valuable tool to assist artists and to provide art for product creators who can't afford to hire artists. The danger is companies who can afford to hire artists using generative AI because it's cheaper, regardless of whether or not it's slop. IMO, there isn't an issue training AI on the works of human beings. Human beings train on the works of human beings. The issue is obtaining the training sources legally, which it turns out notable AI providers did not.
 
I'm in the fine for personal use camp. For commercial use, it should comply with US Copyright Office guidelines. Right now, that means human/AI hybrid projects are copyrightable but raw AI is not. If you want to use un-copyrightable art in your commercial project, well those are not the dice I would want to roll.
 
actionman said:
Really, I miss the minimalist art design of Classic Traveller and other 80's ttrpgs. Simple black and white line that adds a little flavor or explanation was what I liked. It gave me an idea then let my imagination do the rest. Even the line art in GURPS Traveller was preferable IMO to glossy full color illustrations. Ttrpg books are meant to be read, used, and handled, not to be coffee table art books.
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I found them utterly boring and one of the main reasons I skipped Classic Traveller and didn't pick it up again until MGT2
 
zircher said:
I'm in the fine for personal use camp. For commercial use, it should comply with US Copyright Office guidelines. Right now, that means human/AI hybrid projects are copyrightable but raw AI is not. If you want to use un-copyrightable art in your commercial project, well those are not the dice I would want to roll.
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Not everyone lives in the US, and Mongoose is located in UK.

Just saying... 😉
 
A lot of this discussion took place in the 19th century when photography started to displace illustrators and artists.

You can find the same thing happening in the 15th century when printing came in and put a lot of scribes out of work, too.
 
rinku said:
A lot of this discussion took place in the 19th century when photography started to displace illustrators and artists.

You can find the same thing happening in the 15th century when printing came in and put a lot of scribes out of work, too.
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LOL speaking of which i am a trained photographer but i dont get upset because everyone now has a camera on their phone.
 
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