The Deep and the Dark: errata

[CordwainerFish]

p. 7: "Dignir" should be "Dingir"

p.7: "Long Night" should be "The Long Night"

passim.: Traveller Maps uses "Urlaqqash" for both the subsector and the world; following this usage might make for less friction,

ed.: fixed

 

[MongooseMatt]

Cheers for this, we are taking a look!

 

[GabrielGABFonseca]

'Tis the season for the greason, and I bring ye a fresh batch of errata, as per tradition! I've so far gone through all chapters up to the beasties section, so Page 57.
As always, if I'm not sure something is a mistake, it'll have a [?] appended to it.

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• Page 7, first paragraph: 'Aslan travellers and traders followed the winding Tralyeaeawi routes to visit the fabled worlds of Terra, Dignir, Ishnar and Muan Gwi.' - Dingir, not 'Dignir'.
• Page 14, 'Beyond Ftahalr (380 to 693)', 1st paragraph: 'The Imperium shifted its attention to spinward of the Solomani Rim, despite most of these territories, just like Reaver’s Deep, had never been incorporated into either the First or Second Imperium.' - I think there's a word missing in this sentence, as 'despite most of these territories (...) had never been incorporated (...)' doesn't sound right.
• Page 15, 'The Rise of the Solomani (693 to 871), 3rd paragraph: 'In 702 Empress Margaret I met with moderate leaders of the Solomani Party Congress in order to diffuse tensions and placate the more vocal advocates for the Solomani Cause.' - surely defuse, not 'diffuse'?
• Page 19, 7th paragraph: 'In 1058 the Aslan a trading corporation Khtyuwi’ opened up the world of Roakhoi.' - extra 'a' between 'the Aslan' and 'trading corporation'.
• Page 19, 8th paragraph: 'Daldreem was named High Justice, the highest position in the Assembly, and is party immediately began passing legislation to solidify the Expansionist hold on the government.' - 'and his party', not 'and is party'.
• Page 19, 10th paragraph: 'These sectors, part of the Domain of Ilelish, are overseen by the Archduke Dulinor Astrln llethian, who was appointed in 1104.' - weird capitalisation of Astrin.
• Page 24, 'Mother Simbula' box, 6th paragraph: 'After years of threats and slander, Rihanur has narrowly escaped at least two assassination attempts and lived in hiding since 1199.' - Considering it is currently 1105, you probably meant 1099.
• Page 32, 'Yn-Tsai' box, Lowe Pressure: 'A Yn-tsai always DM-1 on checks when in a high pressure (8, 9 or 13) atmosphere.' - missing an 'applies' or similar word here.
• Page 38, 3rd paragraph: 'Islaiat art and architecture, however, is widely recognised as an monumental cultural achievement, (...)' - a monumental, not 'an monumental'.
• Page 38, 5th paragraph [?]: 'Only a few elite units, assigned to protect political and religious leaders, are outfitted at TL14.' - Considering the Islaiat Dominate's peak tech level is TL13, is this correct? They could certainly import TL14 equipment, so not a mistake, but I wanted to point it out just in case it is.
• Page 38, 6th paragraph [?]: 'The temporal leader of the Dominate, the Islaiatko, is chosen by a counsel of aristocrats to serve for life.' - Is 'temporal' correct here?
• Page 44, 'Trokh', 1st paragraph: 'A holophrastic language using one word to encompass the meaning of an entire sentence, (...)' - While technically not incorrected, the term 'holophrastic language' has generally been deprecated by linguists. The favoured terminology is 'polysynthetic language'.
• Page 44, 'Virushi': 'The very structure of their language reflects the Virushi mindset, with limited ability to express legalistic concepts and no equivalent of an imperative mode.' - imperative mood, not 'mode'.
• Page 47, 'Aariskin Corporation': 'A Carrillian chartered concern, Aariskin operates Daakar-class freighters.' - Dakaar-class freighters, not 'Daakar'.
• Page 54, 'Technoplex Corporation': 'One of corporation’s smaller subsidiaries is Ecoform Research Associated which specialises in information and research, not manufacturing.' - Missing a the between 'One of' and 'corporation's smaller'.

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Really liking the book so far, this is a very good one. Can't wait to add it to the timeline!

 

[WHULorigan]

Errata I have noticed so far:

• Page 21, Right Column (3rd Paragraph): "Ayansh’i artisans created the ‘Ducal Gardens’ on Wariner in the Edge subsector of Daibei" - should be "Warinir"
• Page 88, Right Column (2nd Paragraph): "Duke Litininin’s only heir, Count Craig Anton Hovath" - should be "Horvath".
• Page 88, Right Column (3rd Paragraph): "Reaver’s Deep has only two subsector dukes who owe direct fealty to Duke Litinini" - should be "Litininin"
• Page 100, 'NDIGENE PROTECTIONISTS' (Title) [?]: This may be a typo for "INDIGENE", or a clever moniker for the group - it depends upon the intent.

 

[WHULorigan]

Also, I have noticed that there is no mention of the supernova remnant (neutron star) located at Reaver's Deep 1118 mentioned in Far Traveller #2 (p.17) that deposited Onnesium (= Element #118 "Oganesson") on Gavza (Reaver's Deep 1117). The deposits on Gavza are mentioned on p.152, but not the location of the supernova-remnant itself.

(It is also interesting that it coincidentally lies close to the later discovered real-universe pulsar PSR J0108-1431, depending on how you deal with the somewhat skewed axes of Charted Space).

 

[Garnfellow]

'Tis the season for the greason, and I bring ye a fresh batch of errata, as per tradition! I've so far gone through all chapters up to the beasties section, so Page 57.
As always, if I'm not sure something is a mistake, it'll have a [?] appended to it.

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• Page 7, first paragraph: 'Aslan travellers and traders followed the winding Tralyeaeawi routes to visit the fabled worlds of Terra, Dignir, Ishnar and Muan Gwi.' - Dingir, not 'Dignir'.
• Page 14, 'Beyond Ftahalr (380 to 693)', 1st paragraph: 'The Imperium shifted its attention to spinward of the Solomani Rim, despite most of these territories, just like Reaver’s Deep, had never been incorporated into either the First or Second Imperium.' - I think there's a word missing in this sentence, as 'despite most of these territories (...) had never been incorporated (...)' doesn't sound right.
• Page 15, 'The Rise of the Solomani (693 to 871), 3rd paragraph: 'In 702 Empress Margaret I met with moderate leaders of the Solomani Party Congress in order to diffuse tensions and placate the more vocal advocates for the Solomani Cause.' - surely defuse, not 'diffuse'?
• Page 19, 7th paragraph: 'In 1058 the Aslan a trading corporation Khtyuwi’ opened up the world of Roakhoi.' - extra 'a' between 'the Aslan' and 'trading corporation'.
• Page 19, 8th paragraph: 'Daldreem was named High Justice, the highest position in the Assembly, and is party immediately began passing legislation to solidify the Expansionist hold on the government.' - 'and his party', not 'and is party'.
• Page 19, 10th paragraph: 'These sectors, part of the Domain of Ilelish, are overseen by the Archduke Dulinor Astrln llethian, who was appointed in 1104.' - weird capitalisation of Astrin.
• Page 24, 'Mother Simbula' box, 6th paragraph: 'After years of threats and slander, Rihanur has narrowly escaped at least two assassination attempts and lived in hiding since 1199.' - Considering it is currently 1105, you probably meant 1099.
• Page 32, 'Yn-Tsai' box, Lowe Pressure: 'A Yn-tsai always DM-1 on checks when in a high pressure (8, 9 or 13) atmosphere.' - missing an 'applies' or similar word here.
• Page 38, 3rd paragraph: 'Islaiat art and architecture, however, is widely recognised as an monumental cultural achievement, (...)' - a monumental, not 'an monumental'.
• Page 38, 5th paragraph [?]: 'Only a few elite units, assigned to protect political and religious leaders, are outfitted at TL14.' - Considering the Islaiat Dominate's peak tech level is TL13, is this correct? They could certainly import TL14 equipment, so not a mistake, but I wanted to point it out just in case it is.
• Page 38, 6th paragraph [?]: 'The temporal leader of the Dominate, the Islaiatko, is chosen by a counsel of aristocrats to serve for life.' - Is 'temporal' correct here?
• Page 44, 'Trokh', 1st paragraph: 'A holophrastic language using one word to encompass the meaning of an entire sentence, (...)' - While technically not incorrected, the term 'holophrastic language' has generally been deprecated by linguists. The favoured terminology is 'polysynthetic language'.
• Page 44, 'Virushi': 'The very structure of their language reflects the Virushi mindset, with limited ability to express legalistic concepts and no equivalent of an imperative mode.' - imperative mood, not 'mode'.
• Page 47, 'Aariskin Corporation': 'A Carrillian chartered concern, Aariskin operates Daakar-class freighters.' - Dakaar-class freighters, not 'Daakar'.
• Page 54, 'Technoplex Corporation': 'One of corporation’s smaller subsidiaries is Ecoform Research Associated which specialises in information and research, not manufacturing.' - Missing a the between 'One of' and 'corporation's smaller'.

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Really liking the book so far, this is a very good one. Can't wait to add it to the timeline!

These are great catches, thanks! "Diffuse" is particularly embarrassing. Having the elite Islaiat forces at TL14 was intentional, but it's extremely gratifying to have someone pay that close attention. "Temporal" can refer to time but also mean "powers or matters relate to ordinary institutions and activities rather than to religious or spiritual ones." I did not know polysynthetic was the preferred term now, so thanks for that.

 

[Garnfellow]

Errata I have noticed so far:

• Page 21, Right Column (3rd Paragraph): "Ayansh’i artisans created the ‘Ducal Gardens’ on Wariner in the Edge subsector of Daibei" - should be "Warinir"
• Page 88, Right Column (2nd Paragraph): "Duke Litininin’s only heir, Count Craig Anton Hovath" - should be "Horvath".
• Page 88, Right Column (3rd Paragraph): "Reaver’s Deep has only two subsector dukes who owe direct fealty to Duke Litinini" - should be "Litininin"
• Page 100, 'NDIGENE PROTECTIONISTS' (Title) [?]: This may be a typo for "INDIGENE", or a clever moniker for the group - it depends upon the intent.

These are all also good catches, thanks.

 

[Garnfellow]

Also, I have noticed that there is no mention of the supernova remnant (neutron star) located at Reaver's Deep 1118 mentioned in Far Traveller #2 (p.17) that deposited Onnesium (= Element #118 "Oganesson") on Gavza (Reaver's Deep 1117). The deposits on Gavza are mentioned on p.152, but not the location of the supernova-remnant itself.

(It is also interesting that it coincidentally lies close to the later discovered real-universe pulsar PSR J0108-1431, depending on how you deal with the somewhat skewed axes of Charted Space).

I can't access my notes right this moment, but I think I pulled that back because the theory wasn't proposed until after 1105 -- but if so there should have been a note in "Secrets and Revelations" that I must have missed.

 

[WHULorigan]

I can't access my notes right this moment, but I think I pulled that back because the theory wasn't proposed until after 1105 -- but if so there should have been a note in "Secrets and Revelations" that I must have missed.

Note also that inexorabletash has since marked the location of the neutron star on TravellerMap using the established anomaly-symbol for such occurrences.

 

[WHULorigan]

And BTW Garnfellow, thanks for your hard work collating all of that info from all of those obscure and disparate sources for the sourcebook. You did a GREAT job.

 

[CordwainerFish]

Currently TMap just calls it 'Neutron Star'; I think REAV-1118, like the Wiki has, has more of an astronomical catalog feel to it.

 

[WHULorigan]

Currently TMap just calls it 'Neutron Star'; I think REAV-1118, like the Wiki has, has more of an astronomical catalog feel to it.

I agree. I originally made up that notation for the wiki article based simply on the standard T5 4-letter sector code format and hex location of the object. The name wasn't in the original source document, however.

 

[MongooseMatt]

Updates have been made, simply redownload from our website or Drivethru for the latest version!

 

[CordwainerFish]

The Riftrim map on p.142 is still the Riftdeep map duplicated.

ed.: fixed

 

[CordwainerFish]

One of the artist credits simply reads "Angel". Is the mononym their preferred form, and are they the same person as the Angel Muro credited in The Third Imperium?

ed.: fixed

 

[Seffix]

I appreciate labeling which decks are upper and which are lower. Also, the multi-level bridges have a cooler feel.

P. 67 Avenger plans -- The bridge section and triad of turrets appear to be labeled as Deck 4, but the iris hatches and the ship illustration suggest they are on Deck 1


P. 81 Type SK Plans -- I believe the bridge's gravity direction is in a different direction from the rest of the ship (cool), but there is nothing that specifies that. Also, bother levels of the bridge appear to be labeled as the lower level (doable if their grav plates are in opposite directions, but tough for moving around).

 

[Seffix]

P. 108 -- The Avalon Fleet has assets comparable to a FleetRon and two Patrons, divided between flotillas assigned to bases at Calcutta, Moibeal, Cerer and Avalon.
Patron >> PatRon

 

[GabrielGABFonseca]

Alright, I'm still going through the book and am up to the Aslan clans listing, however, I'll keep this batch of errata short, only up to the end of the High Guard chapter.
Yes, it is almost entirely High Guard errata, which I usually leave for last, but 'tis what it is.

• Page 59, Elyosa, 3rd Paragraph: "Elyosafur has a luxurious feel, is available in a wide range of colours (all tinged with black) and possesses substantial water repellent qualities." - The words "Elyosa" and "fur" have been accidentally conjoined.

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• Avenger-Class Patrol Frigate
  • Cargo: Cargo should be 78.4 tons, not 90.
  • Total: Purchase Cost should be MCr389.14, Maintenance Cost is correct.
• Dakaar-Class Freighter
  • All correct!
• Eiaikeiar-Class Intruder Transport
  • Armour: Because this is a streamlined hull, to have protection 13 Crystaliron armour, it would require (3000 * 0.0125 * 13) * 1.2 = 487.5 * 1.2 = 585 tons. In order to keep the design legal, I suggest changing the afforded protection to Crystaliron 10, which takes up 450 tons and costs MCr90.
  • Craft:
    • Launches x2 should cost MCr5.26
    • Docking Spaces (4 tons) x6 should take up 30 tons and cost MCr7.5
  • Cargo: Due to the above changes, cargo should be 197 tons.
  • Total: Due to the above corrections, Total Cost should be MCr1489.21; Purchase Cost is also MCr1489.21 and Maintenance Cost is now Cr124,101/month.
  • Power: Missing the following entries:
    • Screens: 40
    • Medical Bay: 4
    • Low Berths: 19
• Qasar-Class Scout Cruiser
  • Craft: A launch costs MCr2.63, not 2.367.
  • Systems:
    • Technically not a mistake, but High Guard says 'every four tons dedicated to laboratories space allows one scientist to perform research on board the ship', so it stands to reason that 24 tons of Laboratories should be noted as Laboratories x6, not x3, but this is such an absurd nitpick that it is barely worth pointing out.
  • Total: The Purchase Cost should be MCr443.7705, and the Maintenance Cost Cr36,981/month
• Solomani Colonial Transport
  • Armour: Because this is a streamlined hull (+20% to armour tonnage), the armour should take up 6 tons and cost MCr0.3.
  • Cargo: Due to the above changes, cargo should be 21 tons.
  • Total: Due to the above correction, Purchase Cost should be MCr58.145 and Maintenance Cost Cr4,845/month.
  • Power: Missing entry for the Low Berths, which consume 15 power.
  • [!] POTENTIAL DESIGN ISSUE [!]: Unless this ship shuts down Basic Ship Systems in order to half their power consumption from 40 to 20 power (See Pg.: 153 of Core Rulebook 2022), it will not have enough power to keep its Basic Systems and Low Berths powered while initiating jump.
• Solomani Escort
  • Armour: Because this is a streamlined hull (+20% to armour tonnage), the armour should take up 12 tons and cost MCr2.4.
  • Cargo: Due to the above changes, cargo should be 18 tons.
  • Total: Due to the above corrections, Purchase Cost should be MCr105.9 and Maintenance Cost Cr8,825/month.
• Bulk Carrier
  • Craft: A Ship's Boat costs MCr7.58, not 6.822
  • Total: Due to the above correction, taking into account the Common Spacecraft 10% discount, Purchase Cost should be MCr214.371 and Maintenance Cost should be Cr17,864/month.
• Solomani Colonial Cruiser
  • Armour: Because this is a streamlined hull (+20% to armour tonnage), the armour should take up 60 tons and cost MCr12.
  • Weapons: Assuming the vessel is equipped with three fixed mounts, each with one beam laser, as the notation implies, their total cost should be MCr1.8. If, however, the intention is to have three fixed mounts each with three beam laser, which seems to be the intention based on weapon power consumption, the notation must be changed to Fixed Mount (Beam Lasers x3) x3 to avoid ambiguity and make it abundantly clear what is meant, because even I, a veteran High Guard nitpicker, forgot fixed mounts can have up to three weapons on them until I checked the book.
  • Cargo: Due to the above changes, cargo should be 15 tons.
  • Total: Due to the above corrections, Purchase Cost should be MCr504.61 and Maintenance Cost should be Cr42,051/month.
• Armed Packet
  • Armour: Because this is a streamlined hull (+20% to armour tonnage), the armour should take up 18 tons and cost MCr3.6
  • J-Drive: The Jump Drive should cost MCr41.24, not 41.24.
  • Cargo: Due to the above changes, cargo should be 19.5 tons.
  • Total: Due to the above corrections, Purchase Cost should be MCr126.1 and Maintenance Cost should be Cr10,508/month
  • Power: Missing entry for Low Berths, which consume 1 power.
• Aslan Attack Boat
  • All correct!

 

[Garnfellow]

Armed Packet

• Armour: Because this is a streamlined hull (+20% to armour tonnage), the armour should take up 18 tons and cost MCr3.6
• J-Drive: The Jump Drive should cost MCr41.24, not 41.24.
• Cargo: Due to the above changes, cargo should be 19.5 tons.
• Total: Due to the above corrections, Purchase Cost should be MCr126.1 and Maintenance Cost should be Cr10,508/month
• Power: Missing entry for Low Berths, which consume 1 power.

Thanks for going through the math on the ships -- I was incorporating the High Guard 22 update but wasn't 100% I caught all the tweaks. I agree with the armor change, but I'm not sure about the J-drive. I had it at 27 tons and MCr40.5, resulting in a cargo of 19 tons and Purchase Price of MCr127.35.

 

[GabrielGABFonseca]

Thanks for going through the math on the ships -- I was incorporating the High Guard 22 update but wasn't 100% I caught all the tweaks. I agree with the armor change, but I'm not sure about the J-drive. I had it at 27 tons and MCr40.5, resulting in a cargo of 19 tons and Purchase Price of MCr127.35.

So, this is a 300 ton hull and we're going for a Jump Drive with range 3; Looking it up on Page 16 of HG2022, it shows us that J-3 requires Hull * 7.5% + 5 = 300 * 0.075 + 5 = 22.5 + 5 = 27.5 tons.
"A jump drive must be a minimum of 10 tons," okay, we're above that so no need for worry, "and they cost MCr1.5 per ton." — 27.5 Tons of Jump Drive times MCr1.5, that gives us MCr41.25.

Tallying up all of the Type-U's gubbins:

Hull (300 Tons, Streamlined)	—	18
Armour (Crystaliron, 4)	18	3.6
M-Drive (Thrust 3)	9	18
J-Drive (Jump 3)	27.5	41.25
Power (TL12 Fusion, 240)	16	16
Fuel (J-3, 4 Weeks)	92	—
Bridge	20	1.5
Computer/15	—	2
Sensors (Civilian Grade)	1	3
Weapons (Trip. Tur. Missile Racks) x2	2	6.5
Weapons (Trip. Tur. Beam Lasers)	1	2.5
Docking Space (4 tons)	5	1.25
Air/Raft	—	0.25
Fuel Processor (60 tons/day)	3	0.15
Medical Bay	4	2
Standard Stateroom x16	64	8
Low Berths x4	2	0.2
Software (Jump Control/3)	—	0.3
Common Areas	16	1.6
Cargo:	(300 - 280.5) = 19.5	—
Total Cost:	—	MCr126.1

I'm mostly sure I got it right, but a sneaky mistake could have made its way in, so double-checking the above can't hurt.