Techno-Mage Chracter Sheet

[frobisher]

I just don't buy it.

I'll come back to this...

In Crusade (the only Season unfortunantly), Galen was EXTREMELY effective against the Drakh. Where the Drakh were servants of the Shadows, I would think that Shadow Tech would have protection against someone using their tech against Shadow Tech....

Why would it? Galen was pretty much using energy effects and projection which, in itself, is intrinisically not "Shadow Tech".

It's not like, say, the Vorlon Listening Post was immune to the weapons of the Whitestar fleet...

Also, whilst the Drakh are Shadow Servants, they aren't entrusted with that level of technology; Their foot soldiers use pretty much mundane equipment.

In Geometry of Shadows (season 2) & A Call to Arms it was quite clear that the Technomages did NOT want their secrets to fall into the hands of the Shadows. It was not the other way around. The Technomage that spoke to Sheridan was very clear (I just watched this one last week) that their Magic must not fall into the wrong hands.

It's symantics; Elric was telling the exact truth; He didn't want the Shadows to get get control over the Order as had been intended;

The Technomages were a resource the Shadows had been preparing over the last thousand years, and this resource wasn't wanting to be used now it realised what was going on...

The thing is, this was going to be one of the big revelations at the end of the first season of Crusade (I think jms makes some reference to this in the commentries on the Crusade DVDs) - the unfilmed script that jms released for the end of season cliffhanger ("To the ends of the Earth" I think..?) contains a sequence where Galen "Shadow Skins" himself and Gideon dots the I's and crosses the T's and confronts him on the source of his technology.

The Technomage Trilogy was written from a outline provided by jms, and something this major made up by the author would have been knocked back (understatement!).

 

[scottmage]

Well as points to consider against your points. similar weapons used differently can be much more effective. 2 F-15s flying against each other for example. The difference is in the pilot.

If the Technomages say wrong hands, they may mean the Shadows, they may mean humans, they may mean anybody. It's not clear, deliberately so I feel.

LBH

Well....the Friend/Foe recognition systems on F-15s won't allow them to fire at each other under normal circumstances and this tech is not 300 years old, let along the Shadows millions of years old technology.

The mage that spoke to Sheridan was very clear that there was a darkness coming and Galen said to Sheridan in Call to Arms While you may have defeated the Shadows, the rest are not sure. They will wait a while to be sure, say 20 or 30 years.

From what Galen stated, it is very clear who they were hiding from.

 

[scottmage]

It's not like, say, the Vorlon Listening Post was immune to the weapons of the Whitestar fleet...

Also, whilst the Drakh are Shadow Servants, they aren't entrusted with that level of technology; Their foot soldiers use pretty much mundane equipment.

True. I need to purchase the Crusade DVDs, that did jog my memory to the fact that the Marines with them seemed to holding their own as well.

The thing is, this was going to be one of the big revelations at the end of the first season of Crusade (I think jms makes some reference to this in the commentries on the Crusade DVDs) - the unfilmed script that jms released for the end of season cliffhanger ("To the ends of the Earth" I think..?) contains a sequence where Galen "Shadow Skins" himself and Gideon dots the I's and crosses the T's and confronts him on the source of his technology.

The Technomage Trilogy was written from a outline provided by jms, and something this major made up by the author would have been knocked back (understatement!).

It has been my experience that authors that write based on something seem to change complete histories. There are numerous examples in Star Trek, Lensmen (after E.E. "Doc" Smith died), etc. I would be intested to know if JMS had the time to read the Technomage Trilogy.

If the Shadows have left the Galaxy, and they are the only ones to produce the Technology, how can there be more Technomages?

 

[lastbesthope]

Well....the Friend/Foe recognition systems on F-15s won't allow them to fire at each other under normal circumstances and this tech is not 300 years old, let along the Shadows millions of years old technology.

IFF only works if it is turned on at both ends, or is actually operating correctly (at both ends). And everyone knows every friendly aircraft's IFF transponder code.

There are a few examples of Russian fighters shooting down their wingman due to a habit amongst some of their pilots of depressing the truigger whilst waiting for a lock to fire, then due to IFF faults locking on to the Russian wingman. Also there was the incident in the most recent Gulf War where a US Patriot battery shot down a UK RAF Tornado.

In a perfect world IFF prevents these things, but we ain;t ina perfect world. and neither is Babylon 5.

The mage that spoke to Sheridan was very clear that there was a darkness coming and Galen said to Sheridan in Call to Arms While you may have defeated the Shadows, the rest are not sure. They will wait a while to be sure, say 20 or 30 years.

From what Galen stated, it is very clear who they were hiding from.

I'd say nothing a Tm says is clear except to a Vorlon :lol:

LBH

 

[frobisher]

It has been my experience that authors that write based on something seem to change complete histories. There are numerous examples in Star Trek, Lensmen (after E.E. "Doc" Smith died), etc. I would be intested to know if JMS had the time to read the Technomage Trilogy.

I'd suspect yes; jms was keen to have greater control over the books after several "disappointing" early ones; However, the 'Mage's technology coming from the Shadows is straight from jms.

If the Shadows have left the Galaxy, and they are the only ones to produce the Technology, how can there be more Technomages?

Very good question, well presented

 

[Kyu Kage]

Any updates on this one?

I'm very interested in it...

 

[Kizarvexis]

Any updates on this one?

I'm very interested in it...

I still haven't picked up the Technomage book yet. Since my job was gifted to someone in Singapore, I'm not sure when I'll get the book. Sorry.

Kizarvexis

 

[Barbara]

BIG Thanks to Kizaevexis for the Telepath sheet. I get sick of playing hunt the page for the stats for each ability. My GM thinks it's great too.

 

[Kyu Kage]

It is indeed very handy.

Maybe TPTB can arrange to make it official....?

 

[Kizarvexis]

The Technomage Sheet is here! Yea!

I haven't added the Technomage Pinnace yet. I plan on doing a vehicle sheet and will make a Technomage version with the Pinnace stats. I'm not sure when I'll get around to that. (Hopefully, I'll find time over the weekend.)

I also updated the Character sheet. And there are now 5 versions of the Telepath sheets, a P1-2, P1-5, P1-8, P1-10 and a sheet with everything. This way the weaker teeps need not have the stuff they can't use on their sheet.

What do you think of the changes?

My B5 RPG page.

Kizarvexis

Edit 1600est: I have added the Technomage Pinnace Add-on sheet to the site above.

 

[Mage Ash]

Awesome Kizarvexis, awesome. I am so glad that you both got the book (one of the best in the Babylon 5 line) and did the character sheet for them. In addition, I like how you divided the pinnace into its own sheet, it makes it easier to work with.

Besides all that, I must say thank you for all the work you put into the system in all ways.

Ash

 

[Kizarvexis]

You're welcome and it was fun to do yesterday.

Kizarvexis

 

[Kyu Kage]

The Technomage Sheet is here! Yea!

Very nice!