Greg Smith
Mongoose
scoutdad said:
I assume there are no current stats for any such ships in SFB?
Tech Slosh and Empire based weapon systems
- Thread starter Da Boss
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I assume there are no current stats for any such ships in SFB?
That is correct.
All Romulan ships have cloaking devices installed, whether they use them or not - you're still paying hte points for them.
All Orion Pirate ships are capable of cloaking (i.e., have cloaking costs established), but only 25 of the Orions in play can have cloaks.
All Romulan ships have cloaking devices installed, whether they use them or not - you're still paying hte points for them.
All Orion Pirate ships are capable of cloaking (i.e., have cloaking costs established), but only 25 of the Orions in play can have cloaks.
The closest thing to that would be the Orion Prime Traitor (a version of the Prime Trader modified to handle a little light larceny on the side) from SFB Module R11. Though that ship is noted as being used by the various Cartels (with or without a cloaking device), one could imagine a "legitimate" Prime Trader being given a similar series of modifications.
(Although, in many cases, the best way to hide on a Prime Trader is in plain sight; the military-grade engines on a Prime Trader are designed to be physically indistinguishable from those on a Free Trader from the outside, making it eaiser to look just just another one of countless civilian-owned craft plying their trade across the Alpha Octant.)
(Although, in many cases, the best way to hide on a Prime Trader is in plain sight; the military-grade engines on a Prime Trader are designed to be physically indistinguishable from those on a Free Trader from the outside, making it eaiser to look just just another one of countless civilian-owned craft plying their trade across the Alpha Octant.)
Greg, no.
We cannot do cloaked Klingons. Those are outside of our contract.
Only Romulans and Orions who are working in a cartel that is in Romulan space (and that is a limited number even there) can have cloaks. For the Orions, a cloaking device not a "plug and play" device in that it replaces a weapon and isn't simply added on. You are sacrificing offense for defense as I understand it.
Jean
We cannot do cloaked Klingons. Those are outside of our contract.
Only Romulans and Orions who are working in a cartel that is in Romulan space (and that is a limited number even there) can have cloaks. For the Orions, a cloaking device not a "plug and play" device in that it replaces a weapon and isn't simply added on. You are sacrificing offense for defense as I understand it.
Jean
Jean said:
Unqiue / Rare Cloaked Gorns, Kzinti, Lyrans (given they are Romulan allies) etc? They are surely fair game without infringing on any copyright for the valid reasons noted above?
IIRC the Cloaking device is not especially large one you have sorted out the tech issues o intergrated systems which your Orion smuggler or his Romulan slave can do for you - for a price.
As the Klingons are the only race that are likely to cause issues you can adopt exactly the opposite path - just don't mention the cloaked Klingon ships that we know they have and make up fun unique / rare ships for the other Empires then there are no issues 
Given that there is an in universe need for specific ship shapes it would be another great reason to have new style/ looking variant ships for the Kzinti, Gorn etc.
or not..........
Given that there is an in universe need for specific ship shapes it would be another great reason to have new style/ looking variant ships for the Kzinti, Gorn etc.
or not..........
or create an new active stealth type system that is not cloaking but lets say the ship hull is black with some kind of energy absorbing paint , no running lights and a kind of scrambler to help confuse sensors. its not cloaked but it is harder to see and hit. such a system could be ported to other empires, but make the needed materials for the paint rare and costly
Jean said:
Cloaking devices on Orions do not replace weapons. They are an additional refit.
Any Orion may have a cloak, it is not Cartel limited. Nor are they limited as to how many you can have in a fleet.
Relevant Rule
(R8.R4) CLOAKING DEVICE REFIT: Many Orion ships (but only a minority) were equipped with cloaking devices to enhance their clandestine operations. The cost BPV and cost of operation are shown on the SSD for each ship.
Romulan police ships do not have a cloak. The only Romulan combat units to lack them.
It has been stated by SVC in various topics (sorry can't point to one off the top of my head) that the various Empires have a handful of cloaking devices used by CIA/GRU/MI6 equivalents, but that they disappear into the background and are not available for (S8.0) (pickup) type games. To date I am unaware of any scenarios that feature such units.
dalek4890l
Mongoose
Minor error here; the kligons have (or used to in my day) have the stasis field generator (SFG). It didn't do any damage, was fitted to a grand total of four ships (B-10A, C9-A, D7-A and D5-A), and couldn't even be used by the Orion Pirates. It was fun to use, especially on a B10-A, and frustrating for your opponent who thought that nothing could stop him from getting an alpha strike on youDa Boss said:
Greg Smith
Mongoose
adm said:
That is exactly what we needed to know, thanks.
Captain Jonah
Mongoose
WOW
Good argument, everyone was right :wink: :lol:
Good argument, everyone was right :wink: :lol:
Greg Smith
Mongoose
Captain Jonah said:
The best kind. :lol: :lol:
Captain Jonah
Mongoose
adm said:
Yes but it's the time line and background that we are talking about, since both SFB and FC have no cloaks for the Klingons, Feds, Gorns etc. The fact they do have some but reserve them for the "Spooks" is what we were looking for.