Star Trek Using Traveller?

[Claybor]

Nice.

 

[Mithras]

Excellent! Again, thanks for the acknowledgement. Where did you get those nifty world maps? One of the official game supplements?

 

[dreamingbadger]

Excellent! Again, thanks for the acknowledgement. Where did you get those nifty world maps? One of the official game supplements?

I got them from here,

http://ussmajestic.wikidot.com/maps

I will add them to the biblography

 

[dreamingbadger]

I have finished off the Races today: just events, skills and treknology to go :

http://cid-20273372de129cbd.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/DRAFT%20Star%20Trek/Role%20Playing%20in%20the%20UFP%20for%20MGT.pdf

 

[dreamingbadger]

Minor change Events finished (mishaps still to do) I never thought writing events could be so hard!

http://cid-20273372de129cbd.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/DRAFT%20Star%20Trek/Role%20Playing%20in%20the%20UFP%20for%20MGT.pdf

 

[dreamingbadger]

I have finished, at least for now, skills and events, just the technology and toys list to do.

I eventually decided not to do "Mishaps"per say, as the Federation would pick up cost of an injury, and the characters enter play in service rather than retired.

http://cid-20273372de129cbd.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/DRAFT%20Star%20Trek/Role%20Playing%20in%20the%20UFP%20for%20MGT.pdf

As I have filched a lot of this from FASA Trek I also am thinking of reworking the FASA Trek Starship combat system for MGT mechanics. I always liked that part of the engine, as it enabled a more interactive roleplaying experience for starship combat. And I likely will make the turn length identical for starship and personal combat, e.g. both turns will be 6 seconds long. Partly because of any interaction between starships and boarders makes the starship combat otherwise very disjointed, and also I like the idea of a more rapid tempo to starship combat...

 

[dreamingbadger]

Updated hand weapons weapons now included:

http://cid-20273372de129cbd.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/DRAFT%20Star%20Trek/Role%20Playing%20in%20the%20UFP%20for%20MGT.pdf

 

[Anonymous]

I have found both of these works to be very helpful, was there anything else done.

I am sorry for resurrecting such an old thread but I had to ask!

Thanks to both authors!!

 

[dreamingbadger]

Hi Ronin,
I haven't done any work on this in a while; the real world has been getting in the way pretty much for the last 4 months

Have a good Christmas

 

[Anonymous]

Hi Ronin,
I haven't done any work on this in a while; the real world has been getting in the way pretty much for the last 4 months

Have a good Christmas

Thanks and Merry Christmas to you as well!

I have been working on converting the TOS characters just for fun I may have to post when i have half a chance!

 

[domingojs23]

What about converting / reverse-engineering Prime Directive (GURPS or D20) into MGT ? I may just do this over the holidays !

 

[phlpp]

If anyone is still working on this, i suggest checking out the figures here: http://www.st-v-sw.net/STSWvolumetrics.html#mozTocId697772 to use for ship tonnages (scroll down to see the star trek ships). The website is about the headache inducing Star Trek vs. Star Wars debate (not even "which is better", but the really annoying "which one would win in a fight" that's humiliating to even know about), but that page in particular is just volume measurements of 3d ship models.

The TOS Constitution class works out to about 15000dtons, close to the calculated 20000dton figure from earlier in the thread. The Galaxy is about 415000dtons. Instead of a conversion of star trek into traveller terms, it's probably a better idea to work in a more simplified, abstracted ship system :wink:

 

[dreamingbadger]

Minor update to the format and some niggles corrected:

http://cid-20273372de129cbd.office.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/DRAFT%20Star%20Trek/Role%20Playing%20in%20the%20UFP%20for%20MGT.pdf

should also be slightly more tree friendly now

 

[domingojs23]

Thanks dreamingbadger !

 

[Solomani666]

Or the US with the Sherman tank. Though some of the later WWII era Soviet tanks where pretty good.

T-34 Soviet tank was based on a design by US engineer J. Walter Christie whos design was rejected by the US Army and later bought by the Soviets.

 

[far-trader]

...We also see the relaxation era of TOS ships in some shows. No holodecks and IIRC no replicators

I recall a scene in "The Trouble With Tribbles" where Kirk (iirc) goes for some food and his tray is served from some kind of automated looking cupboard that looks and acts suspiciously like a replicator... of course instead of the food he expected he gets a tray full of Tribbles because they've gotten into the system and eaten all the food base.

...googled and youtube provides:

check 2 min 30 sec here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNDIKitfsNQ&NR=1

 

[rust]

I recall a scene in "The Trouble With Tribbles" where Kirk (iirc) goes for some food and his tray is served from some kind of automated looking cupboard that looks and acts suspiciously like a replicator... of course instead of the food he expected he gets a tray full of Tribbles because they've gotten into the system and eaten all the food base.

If it were a replicator, someone would have had to reprogram it to pro-
duce Tribbles instead of food and to override Kirk's request for food.

 

[DFW]

and packs. The fact that they have farm planets and special seeds (Quadrotritical) IMHO is another hint

The wheat seeds were for a planet that had certain climatic conditions. It was a play on Triticale, which was created in the 19th century. The seeds weren't for the space station or star ships.

 

[N0-1_H3r3]

I know (That's why I used farm planets and seeds not mills and grain). But a Replicator society does not need that stuff. Most people in TNE/DS9 don't eat "real food" so why should they do in TOS if Replicators are availabel.

Because those aren't Replicators. They serve the same basic purpose (dispensing food), but they're not the "make almost anything from raw matter using lower-resolution transporter technology" Replicators that were in use a century later.

Now, we don't know how the TOS food dispensers worked, but the mere fact that something unexpected fell (not materialised, but fell) out of it suggests a simpler mechanism than that of the replicators that appeared in later series. A Replicator can't reproduce a living creature (its beyond the limitations of the technology), and certainly wouldn't be able to produce one by accident (it'd need a programmed pattern in the computer system to make one, and it'd be created dead).

Beyond that, while we see few people on starships, etc eating "real food" (for most, replicated food from TNG onwards is regarded as being essentially indistinguishable from the real thing, though connoisseurs claim to be able to tell the difference), that can hardly be regarded as a representative sample of the entire population (they're on a starship/space station and thus storage space is limited; replicators are a more efficient use of resources in that context, as they can also be used for tools, spare parts, clothing and other items), and there have frequently been characters who have preferred or had contact with the production of real food and drink (for example: Jean-Luc Picard's family own a vinyard in France, Benjamin Sisko's father owns a restaurant in New Orleans and all three generations of that family are noted as being skilled cooks).

Replicators aren't depicted as replacing the need for conventional methods of manufacture (look at Deep Space 9 - people can replicate any food or clothing they want, but there's still business enough for a tailor and several restaurants on the station), but rather supplementing it and giving people the choice.

 

[dreamingbadger]

and packs. The fact that they have farm planets and special seeds (Quadrotritical) IMHO is another hint

The wheat seeds were for a planet that had certain climatic conditions. It was a play on Triticale, which was created in the 19th century. The seeds weren't for the space station or star ships.

I know (That's why I used farm planets and seeds not mills and grain). But a Replicator society does not need that stuff. Most people in TNE/DS9 don't eat "real food" so why should they do in TOS if Replicators are availabel.

Because technology that is available on a starship isn't generally available for everyone perhaps... there are many cases for militaries using technology well in advance of the technology being available for home or even broad industrial use. At least thats how it works when i play all the best on the debate though