Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
It's larger than the Millenium Falcon, so possibly the Rocinante.
Though going by the set design, maybe Firefly.
Though going by the set design, maybe Firefly.
Ship Design Philosophy
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Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: UltraLite Fighters
1. Quarter of a million bux minus is cheaper than an air/raft.
2. However, at two to six hour endurance, rather than a nap of the earth cruise for fifteen hundred klix, you tend to go intercontinental ballistic.
3. Drop it down to a single cockpit, you have an additional tonne for either cargo, an acceleration bench or two acceleration couches.
4. Acceleration couch can be folded up, so easy conversion to cargo space.
5. Technically, you probably could squeeze in a three quarter tonne acceleration bench into the existing cargo space, for an additional seventy five hundred bux.
6. That would be a neat exact quarter of a million bux, with one hundred seventy five kilogrammes cargo, which coincidentally would be twenty five kilogrammes of checked in baggage, each.
7. You're probably restricted to a laptop sized bag or handbag for onboard.
8. At hypersonic, that could be less than half an hour between Heathrow and Sydney.
9. In theory, should have a toilet onboard; in practice, you'd go before you embark.
1. Quarter of a million bux minus is cheaper than an air/raft.
2. However, at two to six hour endurance, rather than a nap of the earth cruise for fifteen hundred klix, you tend to go intercontinental ballistic.
3. Drop it down to a single cockpit, you have an additional tonne for either cargo, an acceleration bench or two acceleration couches.
4. Acceleration couch can be folded up, so easy conversion to cargo space.
5. Technically, you probably could squeeze in a three quarter tonne acceleration bench into the existing cargo space, for an additional seventy five hundred bux.
6. That would be a neat exact quarter of a million bux, with one hundred seventy five kilogrammes cargo, which coincidentally would be twenty five kilogrammes of checked in baggage, each.
7. You're probably restricted to a laptop sized bag or handbag for onboard.
8. At hypersonic, that could be less than half an hour between Heathrow and Sydney.
9. In theory, should have a toilet onboard; in practice, you'd go before you embark.
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Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: UltraLite Fighters
A. Technological level eight brings the introduction of fusion reactors.
B. In practical terms, only useful if you install a laser drill, since you can't leverage it for increased propulsion, being twice energy dense than the diesels.
C. Endurance would increase immensely, though still subject to the limits of life support.
D. While there were likely conversions then and there, for the better weapons load, from the perspective of later technological levels, not worth it.
E. In theory, you could double acceleration, but without inertial compensators, only in short bursts.
F. In theory, artificial gravity plates should be possible, if with the air/raft you have a rejection of gravity, fusion you manipulate it to create a magnetic bottle, but that might not be the same as the creation.
A. Technological level eight brings the introduction of fusion reactors.
B. In practical terms, only useful if you install a laser drill, since you can't leverage it for increased propulsion, being twice energy dense than the diesels.
C. Endurance would increase immensely, though still subject to the limits of life support.
D. While there were likely conversions then and there, for the better weapons load, from the perspective of later technological levels, not worth it.
E. In theory, you could double acceleration, but without inertial compensators, only in short bursts.
F. In theory, artificial gravity plates should be possible, if with the air/raft you have a rejection of gravity, fusion you manipulate it to create a magnetic bottle, but that might not be the same as the creation.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: UltraLite Fighters
G. You could customize the diesels to squeeze out more power per tonne, bit it's not worth it.
H. First of all, they drink hydrogen like a fish.
I. Admittingly, like the rockets, you might only need a mechanic to maintain and operate them, not necessarily an engineer.
J. Second, in terms of cost to power point, it's exactly the same as early fusion, though a technological level earlier.
K. There's a very narrow window where they can be used, and for specific roles, like maybe an emergency generator that needs very little maintenance of finicky gadgets you'd have for either a fission or fusion reactor.
G. You could customize the diesels to squeeze out more power per tonne, bit it's not worth it.
H. First of all, they drink hydrogen like a fish.
I. Admittingly, like the rockets, you might only need a mechanic to maintain and operate them, not necessarily an engineer.
J. Second, in terms of cost to power point, it's exactly the same as early fusion, though a technological level earlier.
K. There's a very narrow window where they can be used, and for specific roles, like maybe an emergency generator that needs very little maintenance of finicky gadgets you'd have for either a fission or fusion reactor.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: UltraLite Fighters
L. A fusion (micro)reactor at that size is likely a closed box.
M. Highly likely that you'd use an off the shelf commercial variant, since ruggedness really isn't a factor, just safety and idiot proofing.
N. And cost.
O. The limiting factors are endurance and life support, so it only makes sense with the introduction of the manoeuvre drive, which needs a steady source of a lot of power.
P. And if you install an energy intensive weapon system.
L. A fusion (micro)reactor at that size is likely a closed box.
M. Highly likely that you'd use an off the shelf commercial variant, since ruggedness really isn't a factor, just safety and idiot proofing.
N. And cost.
O. The limiting factors are endurance and life support, so it only makes sense with the introduction of the manoeuvre drive, which needs a steady source of a lot of power.
P. And if you install an energy intensive weapon system.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: UltraLite Fighters
Q. What you could do for the Rockette basic trainer is bundle together four standard torpedo rockets, totaling two hundred sixty sevenish kilogrammes of propulsive machinery, creating thirteen and a third thrust tonnes
R. Putting aside how a technological level seven rocket motor can achieve acceleration factor ten.
S. Assuming the torpedoes are using reactionary rocket technology.
T. In theory, this should make acquisition of propulsion drives quite easy for the Rockette basic trainer.
U. Though acceleration is now two and two thirds gee, which is actually enough.
Q. What you could do for the Rockette basic trainer is bundle together four standard torpedo rockets, totaling two hundred sixty sevenish kilogrammes of propulsive machinery, creating thirteen and a third thrust tonnes
R. Putting aside how a technological level seven rocket motor can achieve acceleration factor ten.
S. Assuming the torpedoes are using reactionary rocket technology.
T. In theory, this should make acquisition of propulsion drives quite easy for the Rockette basic trainer.
U. Though acceleration is now two and two thirds gee, which is actually enough.
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Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: UltraLite Fighters
V. The only way to have an internal torpedo magazine would be installing a one tonne Combination Missile/Torpedo Launcher.
W. At best, you could have three torpedoes.
X. In addition, it would cost two megabux.
Y. Firmpointed torpedo grapple only costs a hundred kilobux, takes up no volume, and has a capacity of two torpedoes with possible simultaneous launch.
Z. Gives off Swordfish vibes.
V. The only way to have an internal torpedo magazine would be installing a one tonne Combination Missile/Torpedo Launcher.
W. At best, you could have three torpedoes.
X. In addition, it would cost two megabux.
Y. Firmpointed torpedo grapple only costs a hundred kilobux, takes up no volume, and has a capacity of two torpedoes with possible simultaneous launch.
Z. Gives off Swordfish vibes.
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Emperor Mongoose
Starwarships: Star Trek: Inside the Sovereign Class Starship
The Starship Enterprise E was a Sovereign-class vessel that was launched from Earth's San Francisco Yards in the year 2372
The decision was taken to christen Enterprise E following the destruction of her predecessor, Enterprise D in 2371.
She played a major role in saving Earth from the Borg invasion of 2373, and six years later also saved the Federation from the Romulans.
The ship ended in 2379 and underwent a major refit that saw Captain Picard taking on a new generation of officers as many of her senior staff moved on to other positions. following the loss of the Galaxy-class Enterprise NCC-1701-D in 2371,
Starfleet opted to make the next Enterprise a Sovereign-class ship and gave the name to a vessel that was already nearing completion.
1. I think the problem with a distributed computer core would be ease of hacking.
2. In addition to holographic controls, you could have holographic screens.
3. Speaking of which, we could try to construct holodecks.
The Starship Enterprise E was a Sovereign-class vessel that was launched from Earth's San Francisco Yards in the year 2372
The decision was taken to christen Enterprise E following the destruction of her predecessor, Enterprise D in 2371.
She played a major role in saving Earth from the Borg invasion of 2373, and six years later also saved the Federation from the Romulans.
The ship ended in 2379 and underwent a major refit that saw Captain Picard taking on a new generation of officers as many of her senior staff moved on to other positions. following the loss of the Galaxy-class Enterprise NCC-1701-D in 2371,
Starfleet opted to make the next Enterprise a Sovereign-class ship and gave the name to a vessel that was already nearing completion.
1. I think the problem with a distributed computer core would be ease of hacking.
2. In addition to holographic controls, you could have holographic screens.
3. Speaking of which, we could try to construct holodecks.
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Emperor Mongoose
Starwarships: Star Trek: Inside the Nova Class (Deck 1-8)
The Nova-class was a Federation starship designed for short-term planetary research missions. It was placed in service starting in the late 24th century.
At the time of its inception, it was being modeled as the next evolution of the explorer design of the Galaxy class. In 2370, some Nova-class starships were constructed in the Sol system
The final design of the Nova-class initially started out as a pathfinder for the proposed Defiant-class fast torpedo ship.
However, with the looming threat of the Borg, Starfleet Command radically altered the concept of the Defiant class, rendering the pathfinder design unsuitable.
Though Nova class vessels were considered science vessels, the ship carried many assortments of weaponry, allowing the vessel to handle many threats on its own.
1. Clearing space debris:
2. One hundred ten percent docking space would be clearly fitting a specific hull volume and configuration, but can accept a different configuration at about fifty percent less tonnage.
The Nova-class was a Federation starship designed for short-term planetary research missions. It was placed in service starting in the late 24th century.
At the time of its inception, it was being modeled as the next evolution of the explorer design of the Galaxy class. In 2370, some Nova-class starships were constructed in the Sol system
The final design of the Nova-class initially started out as a pathfinder for the proposed Defiant-class fast torpedo ship.
However, with the looming threat of the Borg, Starfleet Command radically altered the concept of the Defiant class, rendering the pathfinder design unsuitable.
Though Nova class vessels were considered science vessels, the ship carried many assortments of weaponry, allowing the vessel to handle many threats on its own.
1. Clearing space debris:
2. One hundred ten percent docking space would be clearly fitting a specific hull volume and configuration, but can accept a different configuration at about fifty percent less tonnage.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: UltraLite Fighters
1. If you externalize the weapon loadout, you're not allowed to substitute it (in addition).
2. You can use the volume for other ship components.
3. In this case, you could drill a hole in a planetoid core, and save ninety five kilobux.
4. Of course, without a manoeuvre drive, atmospheric reenty is probably a bad idea.
5. Since a planetoid has gravity plates installed by default, it's one hundred eighty seven and a half kilobux that is saved.
6. Or you could view the artificial gravity as a freebie.
7. 242'500 - 2'500 - 112'500 - 15'000 + 20'000 + 10'000 = 142'500
8. That's the basic cost.
9. The firmpointed torpedo grapple is a hundred kilobux, plus the cost of two torpedoes.
1. If you externalize the weapon loadout, you're not allowed to substitute it (in addition).
2. You can use the volume for other ship components.
3. In this case, you could drill a hole in a planetoid core, and save ninety five kilobux.
4. Of course, without a manoeuvre drive, atmospheric reenty is probably a bad idea.
5. Since a planetoid has gravity plates installed by default, it's one hundred eighty seven and a half kilobux that is saved.
6. Or you could view the artificial gravity as a freebie.
7. 242'500 - 2'500 - 112'500 - 15'000 + 20'000 + 10'000 = 142'500
8. That's the basic cost.
9. The firmpointed torpedo grapple is a hundred kilobux, plus the cost of two torpedoes.
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Emperor Mongoose
Inspiration: 1899 | Official Trailer | Netflix
On their journey across the vast and treacherous Atlantic Ocean, the passengers of the Kerberos encounter the biggest mystery of their lives. Welcome to 1899, a deeply immersive new series from the creators of Dark.
Full of hope for a better future, passengers aboard a ship to the New World sail into a nightmare when they find a second vessel adrift on the open sea.
1. First episode, I thought it was a rehash of Event Horizon.
2. Then Lost, with a steampunk aesthetic.
3. Initially, seemed an interesting set up for a paranoid starship adventure.
4. And of course, then there's the twist in the end.
On their journey across the vast and treacherous Atlantic Ocean, the passengers of the Kerberos encounter the biggest mystery of their lives. Welcome to 1899, a deeply immersive new series from the creators of Dark.
Full of hope for a better future, passengers aboard a ship to the New World sail into a nightmare when they find a second vessel adrift on the open sea.
1. First episode, I thought it was a rehash of Event Horizon.
2. Then Lost, with a steampunk aesthetic.
3. Initially, seemed an interesting set up for a paranoid starship adventure.
4. And of course, then there's the twist in the end.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: UltraLite Fighters
A. Once you do install a manoeuvre drive, technological level nine onwards, you could use the ultralite (or any other spacecraft) as a substitute for anti gravitated vehicles.
B. The firmpointed torpedo grapple can serve as a ground based mobile missile launcher.
C. The torpedoes have the range to reach anywhere on a planet.
D. The most obvious use would be to strap on two bombardment torpedoes, as hypersonic ballistic missiles; precision as long as the target is static.
E. Or, as part of a planetary defence network against spacecraft.
F. Or against vehicles, whether ground, sea or air, though likely a missile would be enough.
A. Once you do install a manoeuvre drive, technological level nine onwards, you could use the ultralite (or any other spacecraft) as a substitute for anti gravitated vehicles.
B. The firmpointed torpedo grapple can serve as a ground based mobile missile launcher.
C. The torpedoes have the range to reach anywhere on a planet.
D. The most obvious use would be to strap on two bombardment torpedoes, as hypersonic ballistic missiles; precision as long as the target is static.
E. Or, as part of a planetary defence network against spacecraft.
F. Or against vehicles, whether ground, sea or air, though likely a missile would be enough.
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Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: UltraLite Fighters
G. Since the firmpointed torpedo grapple torpedoes (and grapple) take up no volume, using budget variants with increased size would be inconsequential.
H. At twenty five percent discount, standard torpedoes would be four hundred kilogrammes instead of a third of a tonne.
I. And cost thirty seven and a half kilobux each.
J. Presumably, as part of the overall weapons system, the firmpointed grapple costs seventy five kilobux.
K. It's possible that a non enlarged torpedo could be fired from these firmpoints, but that isn't clear.
G. Since the firmpointed torpedo grapple torpedoes (and grapple) take up no volume, using budget variants with increased size would be inconsequential.
H. At twenty five percent discount, standard torpedoes would be four hundred kilogrammes instead of a third of a tonne.
I. And cost thirty seven and a half kilobux each.
J. Presumably, as part of the overall weapons system, the firmpointed grapple costs seventy five kilobux.
K. It's possible that a non enlarged torpedo could be fired from these firmpoints, but that isn't clear.
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Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: UltraLite Fighters
L. Since it's more or less on the ground, and in an atmosphere, reloading should be a lot more practical.
M. Since they're not within containers, would need to reload the grapple manually.
N. Well, mechanically, with a crane, on a second vehicle carrying the reloads.
O. Would be part of a battery, with likely separate sensor and command vehicles.
P. With enough bandwidth, you probably could make hand off continent wide.
L. Since it's more or less on the ground, and in an atmosphere, reloading should be a lot more practical.
M. Since they're not within containers, would need to reload the grapple manually.
N. Well, mechanically, with a crane, on a second vehicle carrying the reloads.
O. Would be part of a battery, with likely separate sensor and command vehicles.
P. With enough bandwidth, you probably could make hand off continent wide.
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Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: Engineering and Gravitational Motor Range
1. Terra diameter 12,742 kilometers.
2. Orbital Range: This manoeuvre drive only functions when the ship is within Short range (up to 1,250 kilometres) of a planetary body.
3. Or, one hundred ten percent of planetary diameter.
4. How high can an air/raft reach?
5. One hundred and one percent would reach an altitude of one hundred twenty seven kilometres.
6. Limited Range: This manoeuvre drive only functions within the 100-diameter limit ...
7. Assuming that the manoeuvre drive is a default monokilodiameter range.
8. An advantage (one) could be a range of ten thousand diameters.
9. Orbital range could be ten diameters.
1. Terra diameter 12,742 kilometers.
2. Orbital Range: This manoeuvre drive only functions when the ship is within Short range (up to 1,250 kilometres) of a planetary body.
3. Or, one hundred ten percent of planetary diameter.
4. How high can an air/raft reach?
5. One hundred and one percent would reach an altitude of one hundred twenty seven kilometres.
6. Limited Range: This manoeuvre drive only functions within the 100-diameter limit ...
7. Assuming that the manoeuvre drive is a default monokilodiameter range.
8. An advantage (one) could be a range of ten thousand diameters.
9. Orbital range could be ten diameters.
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Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: Engineering and Gravitational Motor Range
At exactly one diameter, you could have the gravitationally powered vehicle zipping between the dips.
One assumes if you accumulate enough velocity, you can hop over mountain ranges.
| Mean radius | 6371.0 km (3958.8 mi)[9] |
|---|---|
| Equatorial radius | 6378.137 km (3963.191 mi)[10][11] |
| Polar radius | 6356.752 km (3949.903 mi)[12] |
At exactly one diameter, you could have the gravitationally powered vehicle zipping between the dips.
One assumes if you accumulate enough velocity, you can hop over mountain ranges.
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Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: Why You Should Use Architecture as Inspiration for Sci-Fi Ship Design
Spacedock delves into architecture as an inspiration for sci-fi spacecraft design.
1. Dispersed structure, if no one is shooting at you, and you have aerospace connectors.
2. Brutalism, concrete as hull material; reinforced, if armoured.
Spacedock delves into architecture as an inspiration for sci-fi spacecraft design.
1. Dispersed structure, if no one is shooting at you, and you have aerospace connectors.
2. Brutalism, concrete as hull material; reinforced, if armoured.
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Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: Armaments, Bays and Carronades
1. Since they're not mentioned in High Guard two point five, I'll have a go at it.
2. Essentially, a carronade is the equivalent of a firmpointed weapon system, but larger.
3. You have the same effect and damage as the original, but at half the cost, volume, and power draw.
4. Of course, doesn't apply to missile and torpedo weapon systems.
5. It's unlikely that anyone will apply this to small bays, as detecting twenty five tonne bays is going to give the game away.
6. So it most likely be medium bay carronades installed in small bays.
7. Large bays would be relocated into customized two hundred fifty tonne bays.
8. Range is tricky, but close becomes adjacent, short becomes close, medium becomes close, long becomes short, very long and distant becomes medium.
9. The point of a carronade is to be a nasty surprise at close quarters, with the benefit of a lighter, cheaper weapon system.
1. Since they're not mentioned in High Guard two point five, I'll have a go at it.
2. Essentially, a carronade is the equivalent of a firmpointed weapon system, but larger.
3. You have the same effect and damage as the original, but at half the cost, volume, and power draw.
4. Of course, doesn't apply to missile and torpedo weapon systems.
5. It's unlikely that anyone will apply this to small bays, as detecting twenty five tonne bays is going to give the game away.
6. So it most likely be medium bay carronades installed in small bays.
7. Large bays would be relocated into customized two hundred fifty tonne bays.
8. Range is tricky, but close becomes adjacent, short becomes close, medium becomes close, long becomes short, very long and distant becomes medium.
9. The point of a carronade is to be a nasty surprise at close quarters, with the benefit of a lighter, cheaper weapon system.
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Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: Armaments, Orbital Strike Missile Bays, and Unguided Missiles
1. They carry and fire the same number of missiles as other missile bays but cannot use ordinary missiles, instead using unguided kinetic missiles that cost Cr150000 for 12, have Thrust 6 and inflict 3D damage per missile.
2. Sounds like a toned down variant of the bombardment missile.
3. Though I would think that unguided makes them rockets.
4. Which would remove the smart trait, presumably.
5. Likely smaller, as well, since presumably they have a smaller fuel tank (sixty thrust hours), smaller warhead (no guidance and less explosives).
6. Twelve and a half kilobux per missile.
7. Multiple Launch Rocket System.
8. Kinetic?
9. Maybe no explosives and no guidance.
1. They carry and fire the same number of missiles as other missile bays but cannot use ordinary missiles, instead using unguided kinetic missiles that cost Cr150000 for 12, have Thrust 6 and inflict 3D damage per missile.
2. Sounds like a toned down variant of the bombardment missile.
3. Though I would think that unguided makes them rockets.
4. Which would remove the smart trait, presumably.
5. Likely smaller, as well, since presumably they have a smaller fuel tank (sixty thrust hours), smaller warhead (no guidance and less explosives).
6. Twelve and a half kilobux per missile.
7. Multiple Launch Rocket System.
8. Kinetic?
9. Maybe no explosives and no guidance.
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Emperor Mongoose
Spaceships: Armaments, Orbital Strike Missile Bays, and Unguided Missiles
A. The default for ordnance is that it's usually calculated in tonne lots.
B. The presumption would be then that at twelve per tonne, these unguided rockets are the same size as standard spacecraft missiles.
C. At face value, the rocket motors and fuel tank would be the same as the ortillery missile.
D. Ballast would be the difference in volume, usually consisting of the warhead and guidance systems.
E. The difference in price is one hundred fifty kilobux per tonne, between the two, or basically half.
F. Which would imply that the one deadly dice warhead and guidance systems value added is twelve and a half megabux per missile.
A. The default for ordnance is that it's usually calculated in tonne lots.
B. The presumption would be then that at twelve per tonne, these unguided rockets are the same size as standard spacecraft missiles.
C. At face value, the rocket motors and fuel tank would be the same as the ortillery missile.
D. Ballast would be the difference in volume, usually consisting of the warhead and guidance systems.
E. The difference in price is one hundred fifty kilobux per tonne, between the two, or basically half.
F. Which would imply that the one deadly dice warhead and guidance systems value added is twelve and a half megabux per missile.
