Runequest What were you thinking

[Rocambole]

I don't put a price on my Gaming personally, If I like or want something I buy it. Price is immaterial to me.

The enjoyment I get from reading and GM'ing far outweighs any monetary expense.

I own both Artesia and Exalted - and I found them both dreadfully derivative of other games and backgrounds.

Well i doubt a lot of people have an unlimited gaming budget. And the ticket entry for the new glorantha being 84.85 $, some people will look twice before buying, especially when they are other options.

 

[atgxtg]

I dont rem the RQ3 (Games Workshop) hardback being any bigger....
Fairly sure it was a 96 page hardback.....

How did the Games Workshop RQ book hold up? Was it like thier Mission Impossible edtion of Strombringer? As in "this book will self destruct in 60 seconds". I opened up my GWcopy of Strombringer, in the store, and pages started falling out.

 

[atgxtg]

Imagine how ripped off those people who hate MRQ would feel if they had had to pay twice the price to find that out would be. At least this way they can just not buy the companion

If only we hadn't preordered.

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

I dont rem the RQ3 (Games Workshop) hardback being any bigger....
Fairly sure it was a 96 page hardback.....

How did the Games Workshop RQ book hold up? Was it like thier Mission Impossible edtion of Strombringer? As in "this book will self destruct in 60 seconds". I opened up my GWcopy of Strombringer, in the store, and pages started falling out.

Mine had a reasonable amount of use and its still going.

 

[Enpeze]

The price of MRQ is absolutely no problem. If other games are cheaper, so what? I want to play RQ not this Cadwallonthing.

The content is that what counts nothing else. If it is good, I pay even a much higher price than 25$. If it it not good I do not want it for free. The precious thing today in our lives is spare time and how we spend it.

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

Well i doubt a lot of people have an unlimited gaming budget. And the ticket entry for the new glorantha being 84.85 $, some people will look twice before buying.

I don't have an unlimited budget, far from it. Its a luxury item, and like any "non essential" if you want something you buy it (Look at how much people stupidly spend on CCCG's & CMG's).

Its a good solid product, and I think fairly priced.

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

The price of MRQ is absolutely no problem. If other games are cheaper, so what? I want to play RQ not this Cadwallonthing.

The content is that what counts nothing else. If it is good, I pay even a much higher price than 25$. If it it not good I do not want it for free. The precious thing today in our lives is spare time and how we spend it.

"Cadwallonthing" Superb, Class! LMAO!

When you're right you're right.

People who moan about price are living in the past.

 

[atgxtg]

People who moan about price are living in the past.[/b][/color]

Well, we are fantasy gamers.

Seroiusly, I just shelled out $50 for the Great Pendragon Campaign. For twice the price, I got a book three and a half times the size of the MRQ book. SO we aren't living in the past.

BTW, I've noticed a lot of the fans of MRQ seem to praise the simple & Streamlined aspects as a good point. What if someeone considers those weaknesses? I gnenerally don't consider simplier o be better-just simplier. Gnerally, the added complication of some games also gives them more flexibility and ability. I can get more out of RQ3 than BRP.

 

[Vadrus]

The price of MRQ is absolutely no problem. If other games are cheaper, so what? I want to play RQ not this Cadwallonthing.

The content is that what counts nothing else. If it is good, I pay even a much higher price than 25$. If it it not good I do not want it for free. The precious thing today in our lives is spare time and how we spend it.

"Cadwallonthing" Superb, Class! LMAO!

When you're right you're right.

People who moan about price are living in the past.

Actually we're not complaining about the price but about the perceived value of the books in many cases.

Compared to almost any major game on the market MRQ is more expensive per page despite having less content per page, that is the conclusion I have reluctantly come to. In many cases it is 50% more expensive per page, a cost that doesn't seem to reflect in the content or presentation imo.

But that is just my opinion and yours will differ as normal.


Vadrus


Btw, the comparison to a childrens annual was not mine, it was the comment made by my mother when she saw the book :shock:

PS: Cadwallon was just a comparison as they came out within a week of each other, it could have been almost any recent rpg and the views would have been similar.

 

[Dort Onion]

The GW RQ book was reasonable quality (book-wise, not content-wise) - dont rem anyone copy falling to bits - tho I do rem the awfulness of their Stormbringer book - pages failing out, my cover came off and later the spine..... not sure why the SB one sucked so badly

As to font size being too big - you every read a GURPS supplement? MRQ seems fine for font - tho the margins are a tad excessive - but thats what you get when you give artists any leeway

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

The GW RQ book was reasonable quality (book-wise, not content-wise) - dont rem anyone copy falling to bits - tho I do rem the awfulness of their Stormbringer book - pages failing out, my cover came off and later the spine..... not sure why the SB one sucked so badly

As to font size being too big - you every read a GURPS supplement? MRQ seems fine for font - tho the margins are a tad excessive - but thats what you get when you give artists any leeway

Stormbringer used a much cheaper grade of paper. Plus with any hardback book, the more pages the more likely its going to fall apart with constant use as the weight puts strain on the spine.

 

[Vadrus]

Stormbringer used a much cheaper grade of paper. Plus with any hardback book, the more pages the more likely its going to fall apart with constant use as the weight puts strain on the spine.

Ah so your against the MRQ decision for hard covers then?

Sorry, cheap shot I know


Vadrus

 

[atgxtg]

Stormbringer used a much cheaper grade of paper. Plus with any hardback book, the more pages the more likely its going to fall apart with constant use as the weight puts strain on the spine.[/b][/color]

It was the binding on the GW Stormbringer that bothered me. When you "cracked" that book open you instantly broke the bond between the pages and the binding. My binding literally went apart in the store. I've never seen a book disintergrate like that before or since.

 

[SteveMND]

Isn't it better to have your rulebooks in hardback so that they dont get creased, marked and scuffed from constant use?

Given the option, I'll gladly pay and extra buck or two for a hardcover over a softcover any day. However, the content still has to be worth my money in the first place.

I was initially fine with MRQ's D&D-esque approach of a seperate player's book, GM's book and monster book.

Player's book and companion seperate? I can live with that. However, after checking out what similarly-sized hardbacks published by Mongoose have cost, the combined book would have probably been only about $34.95. So, it was either about 35 bucks for a single decent-sized rulebook, or 50 bucks for two seperate books, each of which being on the slim size?

I'm not so convinced the option they choose was the better one anymore.

Why play MRQ rather than RQ2/3? Because it is available.

Just because something is "available" doesn't make it a better product, and just because something has a reconizable name also doesn't make it a better product. Clearly other people have different opinions, but I consider neither of those to be factors that even remotely override the quality of a product when determining what to spend my money on.

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

Stormbringer used a much cheaper grade of paper. Plus with any hardback book, the more pages the more likely its going to fall apart with constant use as the weight puts strain on the spine.[/b][/color]

It was the binding on the GW Stormbringer that bothered me. When you "cracked" that book open you instantly broke the bond between the pages and the binding. My binding literally went apart in the store. I've never seen a book disintergrate like that before or since.

It was poopy Lol, mine ended up in a Folder!

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

Stormbringer used a much cheaper grade of paper. Plus with any hardback book, the more pages the more likely its going to fall apart with constant use as the weight puts strain on the spine.

Ah so your against the MRQ decision for hard covers then?

Sorry, cheap shot I know


Vadrus

Pretty Naff actually.

 

[Doctor Warlock]

Isn't it better to have your rulebooks in hardback so that they dont get creased, marked and scuffed from constant use?

Given the option, I'll gladly pay and extra buck or two for a hardcover over a softcover any day. However, the content still has to be worth my money in the first place.

I was initially fine with MRQ's D&D-esque approach of a seperate player's book, GM's book and monster book.

Player's book and companion seperate? I can live with that. However, after checking out what similarly-sized hardbacks published by Mongoose have cost, the combined book would have probably been only about $34.95. So, it was either about 34.95 for a single combined decent-sized sourcebook, or 50 bucks for two seperate books, each of which is on the slim size?

I'm not so convinced the option they choose was the better one anymore.

Why play MRQ rather than RQ2/3? Because it is available.

Just because something is "available" doesn't make it a better product, and just because something has a reconizable name also doesn't make it a better product. Clearly other people have different opinions, but I consider neither of those to be factors that even remotely override the quality of a product when determining what to spend my money on.

Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah . . . . .

Typical American, brandishing a weapon bigger than his privates and a gob bigger than his brain.

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah . . . . .

Typical American, brandishing a weapon bigger than his privates and a gob bigger than his brain.

Du know I may be pushy and a little passionate at time, but at least I'm not a pratt like you.

Do you actually play any of Mongooses Games, because I've NEVER seen you post anything constructive.

 

[Vadrus]

Player's book and companion seperate? I can live with that. However, after checking out what similarly-sized hardbacks published by Mongoose have cost, the combined book would have probably been only about $34.95. So, it was either about 35 bucks for a single decent-sized rulebook, or 50 bucks for two seperate books, each of which being on the slim size?

Agreed, try puttin MRQ next to the Paranoia or Starship Troopers books and the difference in size and content is staggering considering they come from the same company.


Vadrus

 

[SteveMND]

Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah . . . . .

Typical American, brandishing a weapon bigger than his privates and a gob bigger than his brain.

Mmm, yes, yes, I see. Yes, you've given me quite a lot to think about, Dr. Warlock. Your rebuttals to my arguments are exquisite, and your grasp of debate and exposulation are stunning. I look forward to your next post with unadulterated glee.