Questions About Playing an Allied League Fleet

[Leadman]

I have been trying out an Allied League fleet made up of ships from the Brakiri, Drazi, and Pak’ma’ra lists. I noticed that the special rules that a League Fleet uses do not include the Pak’ma’ra Redundant Systems and Gentle Beings special rules. Is there a reason why they were left out? Would the intended balance be distorted if I were to use both of these rules? They would only apply to the Pak’ma’ra ships.

Thanks,
Leadman

 

[Chernobyl]

Yeah, it seems some abilities got left out. previously it was defined as abilities that affected the entire fleet (good example would be the drazi initiative bonus for attacking) weren't allowed in a combined fleet.

Chern

 

[Triggy]

As far as I'm aware, rules that affect ships (such as Gaim being affected without a Queen, Vree CQ bonuses, pak'ma'ra Redundancy, etc.) all still apply but the "fleet bonuses" such as Drazi inititive don't.

 

[Sulfurdown]

Hmm. Since the League fleet's Initiative is the lowest of the combined group, wouldn't the Drazi initiative "have effect" but it's overruled by the presence of any other League ships? Also - including a Gaim ship without the queen would reduce the fleet's initiative to -3 as the Gaim are in confusion?

 

[Greg Smith]

The Gaim 'The Queens' and 'Protect the Queen' rule don't apply to mixed league fleets, so no penalty for initiative, no double VP for losing a queen, but no +1CQ either.

Bizarrely, non of the pak'ma'ra's special rules apply, where aguably Redundant Systems, Plasma Web and Gentle Beings should.

 

[Sulfurdown]

The Gaim 'The Queens' and 'Protect the Queen' rule don't apply to mixed league fleets, so no penalty for initiative, no double VP for losing a queen, but no +1CQ either.

Bizarrely, non of the pak'ma'ra's special rules apply, where aguably Redundant Systems, Plasma Web and Gentle Beings should.

I'd argue that 'The Queens' & 'Protect the Queen' should still apply to Gaim ships only in addition to the PMR's 'Redundant Systems', 'Plasma Web' and 'Gentle Beings' as a PMR ships only. Those ships aren't being crewed by the Brakiri who don't know them or won't be effected by a loss of a queen, so they should still be applied. Either a House Rule or new Errata?