Prostitutes and wages

[Scorpion13]

To play Set's advocate,

I generally encourage more actual roleplay in the games that I run, so I can't fault a player for wanting to rpg having the night out on the town. Also, in the player's defense, whoring and such is a good part of the flavor of Conan, as opposed to generic D&D. Now if the game has not focused on a more RP-intensive style of play, then the player should have been more aware of this. If the GM doesn't have a problem with more mundane RP, every so often, then so what? As for the price of a prostitute, Quigs, you're the GM, just make up any price. If you think that 1/10th the price of a slave sounds fair, then that's a fair price. And after glancing at the prices for slaves, I think that is fair, probably with a few coins difference depending upon location and how exotic or unique the prostitute in question may be.

Amonakra

An understandable postion, but also remember that lots of Conan's problems come from too much ale and too many whores.

And then of course, you got yourself another adventure, a mini adventure or mini campaign.

 

[GrimJesta]

"You want the quickie, the pillow room or the all popular room with a pool?"

I'm using that line*.

-=Grim=-

*Maybe I'll get a paddle and write "Strom" on it, and each time I use it I'll thwap one of my players with it, so they know the author. I call it "aggressive citation". :lol:

 

[Yogah of Yag]

Since I am still waiting for Stygia in order to finish the next version of the Master Index, I thought that I would alleviate boredom by contributing to this delightfully scandalous thread. Sadly, I cannot make tables in this forum, so here it goes...

Random Prostitute Generation Table 1-1
d% race
1 Afghuli
2 Argossean
3 Barachan
4 Bossonian
5-20 Brythunian
21 Chaga
22 Cimmerian
23 Darfari
24 Ghanata
25-26 Gunderman
27 Himelian Tribesman
28-50 Hyborian
51 Hyperborean
52 Hyrkanian
53 Iranistani
54 Khitan
55 Kushite
56-60 Meadow Shemite
61-62 Nordheimer (AEsir)
63-64 Nordheimer (Vanir)
65 North Black Kingdom Tribesman
66 Pelishtim
67 Pict
68-73 Shemite
74 South Black Kingdom Tribesman
75 South Islander
76-79 Stygian
80 Tauran
81 Turanian
82 Vendhyan
83 Wazuli
84-99 Zamorian
00 Zingaran

I suppose you could tweak the table to suit your tastes. There was a great adventure written called "The Slaver's Caravan" by a Craig Tidwell. I don't remember where I found it, but it has great info on generating the pros as well as the cons of associating with the pros. :twisted:

 

[Scorpion13]

.......I do NOT want a Pictish hooker.

DO NOT.

 

[Strom]

"You want the quickie, the pillow room or the all popular room with a pool?"

I'm using that line*.

-=Grim=-

*Maybe I'll get a paddle and write "Strom" on it, and each time I use it I'll thwap one of my players with it, so they know the author. I call it "aggressive citation". :lol:

:lol: - That will work 8) :lol: I'll have to work something up in my campaign as well.

 

[Mark Dunder]

.......I do NOT want a Pictish hooker.

Unless of course she's a real good looker.

Hey, prostitution is a fact of life. Would not be a realistic game if they are not included. But don't forget the fancy boys. :twisted:

Price in a lot of taverns got included in the room price. The doxies were usually run by the tavern owner. Pimps are another fact of live, the swines.

But, if you're a real smart GM, just don't give them any leasure time to fool around. Tell them to buy equipment and get ready for another adventure. Leasure time means sitting around the gaming table eating pizza and not letting the GM figure out his next adventure (I know there is a rule about swamp gas, he says to himself as he riffles through the pages of several stacks of rulebooks).

 

[High Lord Dee]

have the randy player get robbed by the girls, who then vanish?
or
have em overcharge him + he gets a very sore disease?
or
have em refuse his offer cos he stinks too bad, or they laugh at his manhood? :lol:

u can soon stop the player from wasting your time with pointless puerile teen-boy whoring fantasies.
official sample pros + price lists?? :lol:
who cares? just make up your own on the fly?
~~~~~
There are some tough women in Cimmeria,
the rough Vanir wenches are hairier,
but the whores of Shadizar are scarier!
often sore and diseased in that area... :wink:
~~~~~

Ahh Buxom :roll: ,

You are assuming that all the funny money was going to the ladies. What about the rich female nobles just looking for a good time? Hey! I just thought of a new Hyborian character class !

HLD

 

[Crisippo]

He he he...

Random Prostitute Generation Table 1-1

I am having my players going to Shadizar for the next session so this will probably come in handy. Probably have tweak it a bit though... Seems a bit too cosmopolitan to me, but: Good work!

Prostitutes can serve many purposes (besides the obvious). I mean people come to them as a form of recreation, so i would assume many of their customers drop their guard a bit. This makes prostitutes wonderful as diversions before an attack or sources of information.

Having their price included in the (probably somewhat inflated) room price
makes sense. At least if the whores have a nasty whoremaster.

 

[Buxom Sorceress]

it just makes me laugh so much... :lol:

i mean we all know that rpg-ing with some friends in a room with some dice, pens, papers + rules is viewed by society as sad.
but what could be more pointless + sad than several men sat in a room role-playing fantasy whoring to rules probably written by frustrated men?? :lol:

u might as well have a real adventure with a pro + get some satisfaction for your money?
or spend a private hour in your room with just your randy mouse and the wild variety of free net pleasures? [ that would be safer]
--
do whatever 'floats your boat', or 'raises your flag'...
..but when i want special intimate pleasure i dont need dice + silly rules.
[ i like to role-play in private. but thats in a very real 'game' of mutual pleasure] :wink:

 

[Mark Dunder]

Can't speak for anyone but me, but fantasy whores are much more fun than the real thing.

 

[Buxom Sorceress]

Can't speak for anyone but me, but fantasy whores are much more fun than the real thing.

er, do u mean IMAGINARY *fantasy whores* in your mind, made up from a book?
or
a REAL sexy woman [your girlfriend] who is just playing the role of a *fantasy whore* for u in private?
just curious? :wink:

 

[quigs]

Well just to clarify, my gaming table only has one single fella. The rest are either involved or married to actual women (not imaginary)

But I agree that it can be fun to roleplay this stuff sometimes, as long as its not in a serious manner. We have a lot of fun at our table and joke about a lot of things during play, which I think adds to the experience, as long as it doesn't distract us from the story for too long.

 

[GrimJesta]

Can't speak for anyone but me, but fantasy whores are much more fun than the real thing.

Plus:

Player: "I go look for a whore to spend my coin on. What do I find?"
GM: "Ok, you see *rolls some dice* a Vanir woman staring seductively at you, but you have a feeling she's looking for at your coin pouch than your other pouch."
Player: "By Crom she's mine. I go off to my room with her."
GM: "Ok, after a night of whoring you're down 5 silver."

Isn't 5 sweaty men sitting around a table drooling. I don't know what kind of people Buxom games with, but I have yet to see a game where anything "sad" would happen due to sexual themes. But my homies have social lives, so they don't take "whore charts" as anything gleeful.

-=Grim=-

 

[Strom]

it just makes me laugh so much... :lol:

i mean we all know that rpg-ing with some friends in a room with some dice, pens, papers + rules is viewed by society as sad.
but what could be more pointless + sad than several men sat in a room role-playing fantasy whoring to rules probably written by frustrated men?? :lol:

u might as well have a real adventure with a pro + get some satisfaction for your money?
or spend a private hour in your room with just your randy mouse and the wild variety of free net pleasures? [ that would be safer]
--
do whatever 'floats your boat', or 'raises your flag'...
..but when i want special intimate pleasure i dont need dice + silly rules.
[ i like to role-play in private. but thats in a very real 'game' of mutual pleasure] :wink:

Bux - in all my years of gaming this issue has never come up with my characters or other players surprisingly enough - flirting and having fun with bar maids were the norm. I think all of us here were just donning our Gm hats and trying to come up with a realistic and feasible answer for the special case that might come up. Just shop talk. Although, go to Shadizar and it will come into play - it's just the way it is.

Never knew you to blush Buxom - cause we know your post was just a reactionary response to being mildly titillated. :lol: 8)

 

[Mark Dunder]

I think the statute of limitations has run out on my crime spree, I think. :wink:

Luckily I was single at the time and very, very young. This was a time in Anchorage, Alaska where you could walk from one strip joint to another across the street and not stop till you passed through six of them. 18 was the legal age to drink, although all I ever drank was orange juice. I really liked to watch the dancers, still do for that matter. I suppose that would have been the rest of my life, but my wife has cured me to a great extent. But all those magazines at the grocery check out stands? What is an old man supposed to do?

 

[Buxom Sorceress]

i'm only having some harmless fun teasing out some defensive responses from possible 'rpg-nerds'. :wink:

the more detailed the claims of 'innocent interest' in such natural male petty puerile pastimes, then the louder i laugh. :lol:

theres nothing wrong with what some of u are doing. but whoring in grim hyborias slums should be very dangerous, + fraught with diseases, etc...
many fans talk about more realism in rpg games [which is a deluded fantasy in itself]
so more grim 'reality' should be portrayed in rpg-whoring.
players should not see whoring as a nice fun safe easy pastime [+ a quick in between adventures deductable + predictable expense] with no consequences at all.
that petty puerile male view IS a ridiculous fantasy. + maketh me LOL.

u can make some great exciting grim adventure plots using the deadly world of hyborian whores + robbers as a semi-titilating start, drawing the players into deeper horrors... :twisted:
[ but unless u have a lot of wealth, whoring is not usually fun for man or desperate poor whore]

 

[Crisippo]

i'm only having some harmless fun teasing out some defensive responses from possible 'rpg-nerds'.

Well here you have it... :twisted:

It's not that i don't i don't agree with many of your views. Whoring is probably one of those aspects of fantasy that is taken least seriously, i suspect, because male gamers feel kinda uncomfortable dealing with it at all . Unless it's just a "joke".

My defense is this: My gaming style allows for such things to be taken more seriously. A fantasy characters sex life can be as interesting as his "monster slaying" life. Playing a well rounded character is more fun to me even in the Hyborian setting.

Perhaps the explanation for this could be that for the last six years i have regularly had female players (who usually had no prior connection to the gaming hobby) playing in my games. I've played many sessions with only female players.

I'm sorry this is turning into a rant. My point is that people have different playing styles and different approaches to roleplaying. So i think we should be careful about wide generalizations

that petty puerile male view IS a ridiculous fantasy. + maketh me LOL.

that i, for one, find slightly offensive. It's just a game after all.

IMHO if i want to make the Hyborian Age a sexual La-La-land, then that's what i'll do and i won't let no one tell i'm ridiculous. :wink:

 

[Mark Dunder]

Just make sure the players pay up front. Can't have them running out the back door!

 

[teamescape]

I think some people have missed the point...

...There's a difference between ALLOWING your players to partake in such activities and physically sitting there and DESCRIBING the whole thing.

 

[Crisippo]

...There's a difference between ALLOWING your players to partake in such activities and physically sitting there and DESCRIBING the whole thing.

You are, of course, completly right...

IMO this is where individual players, GM's and gaming groups must find out what suits their own playing style and comfort zone. Either allowing it to take place "off-camera" or making a part of their game; "On-camera" so to speak (which there of course also are many different ways of doing; from PG to triple-X). How realistically with respect to diseases, social stigma, the ethical questions etc. these aspects of the game are handled should also be left up to individual GM's and their players.

Either way, it's whoever's choice and IMHO i don't think they should be ridiculed for their choice.

But this discussion really doesn't belong in this thread anymore (which is probably my fault), it's more a general gaming discussion.