Perplexingly Particular Paintscheme Prefs (Prot's Pet Peeve)

Proteus454

Mongoose
Alliteration aside, this is something that always bugs me, though Starship Troopers seems a particular culprit. Allow me to explain myself...

In brief, the use of completely different paint schemes in the same army is quite ugly. It doesn't look right at ALL. The poor Arachnids, for instance, share what appears to be a dozen decorators amongst themselves.

It's not as bad as, say, the positively cartoonish 2nd Ed. 40K Tyranids with their rainbow-like racial palette. About the best thing they did for that line, or rather the presentation thereof, is give them something resembling uniformity.

Now, I realize this wasn't entirely Mongoose's fault, as they were a bit straitjacketed by the pre-existing depictions of the Bugs and MI in the movies and TV show. (Nobody, for instance, has yet provided me with a clear and compelling reason why the Hoppers are a beautiful tropical rainforest green compared to the cerulean Tankers or tiger-striped Warriors...)

You could also make the case that the Forth and Skinnies have differing tastes and the clashing colour schemes could be considered aesthetically pleasing in their necks of the galactic woods. But even then, there seems little rhyme or reason to the variety to be found in the Skinnies - even assuming, logically, that they weren't painted up to be a "studio army" a la GW. (Purple Venerables? Sky Blue Militia? Green Raiders? Red Guard? BRONZE Soldiers?)

Apart from the difficulty of tailoring squads to your specifications in terms of equipment and weapons as you could with conventional sets, the major drawback in the pre-painted paradigm as I see it is the quasi-legitimization of this practice.

I guess what I'm really trying to say is...wouldn't the LAMI look much better done up in the proper MI green, movie depictions be damned? I mean, no, what I'm REALLY trying to say is, doesn't it all look a little...

...silly? Not so much the gritty, fairly-hard sci-fi that Starship Troopers should be?
 
I can see where you're coming from on the Skinnies... they are a little... well, all over the place.

The Arachnids on the other hand are a collection of different bugs. I don't see any reason for them to be the same color.

...And the rest I have no problem with.

Bottom line... our hobby is one part Gaming and two parts Art. Art is an expression... of, whatever you want it to be. There are no hard and fast rules.

However, a company decides to display their wares is up to them. It's up to you how to ultimately paint them.

If you like uniformity... then paint them that way. It's freedom of Art baby... :D



Note… This poster is not a hippie nor uses “baby” on a regular basis. It was only used in this context to be funny. Which, as usual has failed miserably! :roll:
 
Well, I think a common color sheme makes sense and looks nice. My Bugs are all painted the same or at least a common link between species is obvious (except that I have two strains, Lava and Ice, but that does also make sense if you read my bug's fluff).
Even in nature insects of one colony look quite similar. There may be some casts that fall completely out the colony's sheme (for Bugs that would be things like Ambushers, Mantis or Infiltrators) but most can be identified belonging to a particular spieces or hive.

Just imagine a typical bug army standing on a gaming board compared to a bug army that is all painted in (more or less) the same color sheme (and in the best case, in the appropriate terrain).
The 'uniformed' one simply looks beautiful.
 
Bah, to each his own. The new ones will be a bit more uniformed, some people like bright colours, others don't. If you want a uniformed bug army, paint it that way. Im tempted to paint my ripplers the same as my warriors. :)
 
Psst, hey Rob..


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Galatea understands exactly where I'm coming from. If the bugs were all bred from the same colony, there ought to be some kind of common palette. Mind you, there's also the Blaster and Blister bugs that are distinguished BY coloration...

(Right on, Rob!)
 
I'm happy with my hoppers being a shiney green, where as the rest of my bugs are blessed with different color schemes....









I know these will probably offend your paint scheme sensibilities....
 
MI I tend to like all in one standard color, either green or tan, with grey parts. Bugs IMHO should look like real world bugs of similar type, kind how Mr. Evil did with his ripplers.
 
Who's offended, Hiro?

Excellent paintwork, I must say, though the significance of the blister bug (?) paint scheme eludes me. And the warrior bugs, obviously they'd need to be differentiated in human eyes so's we players can tell the units apart, but yours at least look like they came from the same colony.
 
According to the book, Bugs see in infrared anyway. So maybe their exoskeletons are actually all well color-coordinated, if you look in 1200-950 nm. I always figured I would do a nice black on black camo scheme for my Bugs, but now that prepaints are coming out I'll probably take the easy way out.

As for the Skinnies, I just chalk it up to caste-based color coding. They have had high technology long enough that no one bothers with visual camoflage any more, so they are free to use social cues to determine uniform color.

(In the meta-game, of course, I just want to be able to a) differentiate units, and b) see my figures. Nothing worse than having your camoflage work so well you forget to activate your Pathfinders...)
 
I'm a bit like Hiromoon (meh :wink: ), as it's a sci-fi game and paint schemes are a subjective area. I do see what Proteus454 is saying, but the Arachnids are not to be confused with Earth-based insects. There are ways to reinforce the argument that an entire collection of Arachnid models should be painted in the same general scheme, but there are also ways to support why there might be differences in the ways the models appear. Heck, I just read in another post here in the BF:E forum where half the British troops now in Iraq were deployed with green uniforms and half with desert uniforms! Oh, my. Considering that the Arachnid fluff in the CGI series allows for radical genetic manipulation, different color schemes within an Arachnid force could be a way for the Brain Bug (the sentient part of the host, or army) to see at a glance how its units are deployed on the field. Now before someone says that the Brain doesn't need to see anything due to the mental connection to its minions, then what are all of those eyes for anyway besides scaring "interrogatees" before their demise? :lol: I'm kidding here a bit, but why couldn't there be Blaster Bugs of one color and Warriors and Hoppers to look differently? What happens when we take Proeus454's comment and expand it to include the terrain board, eh? Some of the models might be painted to match an ice world like Galatea's fine Arctic Warriors but then would look out-of-place on a desert tabletop. I've made up a jungle board, a grey lunar board, an urban board and a desert board and whatever I paint my Bug forces I'll get a contrast. Same goes for the MI, too gents. If I paint up my troopers as green throughout all of the units, they'll look out of place on a desert tabletop. It's a no-win scenario and Kirk is forbidden to reprogram the test :wink: . The optimum solution (and I'm waiting for this!) is a future "prepainted" model option that has a nanotech coating on the models (no kidding). Then with RFID or some-such tech the units can be programmed with differing camouflage that is done up on a computer software CAD package. Since this is rumored to be in development in the real-world, it would be just a matter of time before "GI Joe" dolls have active camo options. I saw this done years ago (faked of course) in the movie Total Recall where the female Recall assistant keeps changing her fingernail colors with a touch-probe. The only problem is then finding our miniatures to move them on the tabletop :wink: . Going back to Proteus454's original specific topic, I very much like a consistent looking army in miniature, but I don't see much of a problem trying out different painting methods as we build our collections up, either. One reason that there might be differences in a collection is the time spanning the painting process, trying differing techniques or just that the newest reinforcements for the local Bug Host had to come from a different planet with different terrain. If I ever see Galatea's "Lava Warriors" next to his "Arctic Warriors" I'll just consider some of them to be off-world reinforcements :wink: .
 
BuShips said:
If I ever see Galatea's "Lava Warriors" next to his "Arctic Warriors" I'll just consider some of them to be off-world reinforcements :wink: .

In fact they are off-area reinforcements.
Just read the fluff of my bugs (first post in the 'how to paint my army' thread, of which I'm sure almost no one has read it) - it's no problem, they even live on the same planet (or better on the same moons).

p.s.: My Brain Bug has no eyes...


(and of course you should do some appropriate terrain for your army)
 
Galatea said:
In fact they are off-area reinforcements.
Just read the fluff of my bugs (first post in the 'how to paint my army' thread, of which I'm sure almost no one has read it) - it's no problem, they even live on the same planet (or better on the same moons).

p.s.: My Brain Bug has no eyes...


(and of course you should do some appropriate terrain for your army)

I did read it; it's just that I forgot it as well :oops: .

As far as your Brain Bug not having eyes (I remember that Bug now that you mentioned it :wink: ), you could have skipped painting your army since your Brain wouldn't have noticed anyway :lol: .
 
Xorrandor said:
(In the meta-game, of course, I just want to be able to a) differentiate units, and b) see my figures. Nothing worse than having your camoflage work so well you forget to activate your Pathfinders...)

I'VE DONE THAT!!! Sniper off hiding off the board forgot to bring him in, and he could've won the game. :x
 
I can understand where you are coming from, Proteus, though I must admit that I am guilty of the mismash paint schemes as well. Well, for the bugs anyway.

For my MI, I tried to paint the platoons in the same (or at least very similar) paint schemes, while the Skinnies are having red and green as their common denominators in the paint scheme. The crazy mix of paint schemes for the Skinnies (and from the looks of things the Forth as well) has always confused me. I can understand the concept of different tribes having different paint schemes, but imagining the production models fielded in one army would be quite visually confusing.

Still, to each their own. :D
 
in reply to the first post : Yeah, thats why we're allowed to choose the color... I agree that multi schemed armys are annoying cause it seems like the arachnids might think "What are we fighting? Skittles?"

But for me, I stick with trying to make my army's the same color. Except how X and Herald have two paint schemes for good battles...





Am I rambling at all?
 
combatdroid113 said:
my bugs are going to be painted soon. i think ill go for the uniform choice

whats that school uniform ? little balzers, a tie and a school cap ? dont forget the polished shoes and lunch boxes !!!!!


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