ScipioAmericanus
Mongoose
Mr Evil said:
I don't think so. Let me check. *sniffs* *tries walking a straight line*
Nope. Not me. I'm just drinking straight chai spice tea.
*sniffs*
Nope. Nothing in it.
Mongoose Joins Forces with Rebellion for Evolution Games
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I don't think so. Let me check. *sniffs* *tries walking a straight line*
Nope. Not me. I'm just drinking straight chai spice tea.
*sniffs*
Nope. Nothing in it.
MaxSteiner
Mongoose
Well as you might have noticed I've been trying to be pretty optimistic of late (For me at least :lol: ) even in the face of all the little things I've heard that are giving me nagging doubts, come next month, when I've got my grubby little mits on the SST:Evo stats in S&P and played a game or two with them I'll be ready take a stance on the whole thing.
Im hoping it hasnt been too mauled by the weedwacker though
Im hoping it hasnt been too mauled by the weedwacker though
ScipioAmericanus
Mongoose
Hiromoon said:
That's a point that seems to keep getting lost!
It wasn't the rules that killed SST...it was sh*t minis, lack of depth, poor quality control, and a shot-gun approach.
Having seen it play out, in retrospect, it was almost like they were making it up as they went along: "HOLY SH*T, GUYS! We have the license...now what do we do????"
The rules aren't broken. Other things are, but not the rules.
Regards.
Ginsu Moose
Mongoose
DAMN RIGHT IT WAS THE MINIS!
I respect the book and the show, but im a fan of the film, and what did mongoose do?
They pissed all over the Light Armoued Mobile Infantry, they didn't even issue the LAMI the right bloody weapons, which basicly kills any realism in trying to recreate a scene from the film with them
AND WHAT DID THEY TELL ME?
"We can't make everyone happy"
Yeah you also can't create a freaken Morita Rilfe. :x
So what happens? Another SST fan willing to part with alot of money gets a huge let down. Get back on the horse and get the LAMI right this time, so I can give you my money, come on Mongoose....
I respect the book and the show, but im a fan of the film, and what did mongoose do?
They pissed all over the Light Armoued Mobile Infantry, they didn't even issue the LAMI the right bloody weapons, which basicly kills any realism in trying to recreate a scene from the film with them
AND WHAT DID THEY TELL ME?
"We can't make everyone happy"
Yeah you also can't create a freaken Morita Rilfe. :x
So what happens? Another SST fan willing to part with alot of money gets a huge let down. Get back on the horse and get the LAMI right this time, so I can give you my money, come on Mongoose....
lol i have to agree on the different weapon scupt
struck me as very odd as well.
the reaction rules were one of the problem, that realy came apparent when a swarm of bugs had a battle against a swarm of bugs, the evo rules adress that problem, but do mean thier is a gonna be a shift in point values for some units or rules that allow a maybe some units to react more than once.
struck me as very odd as well.
the reaction rules were one of the problem, that realy came apparent when a swarm of bugs had a battle against a swarm of bugs, the evo rules adress that problem, but do mean thier is a gonna be a shift in point values for some units or rules that allow a maybe some units to react more than once.
demonllamma
Mongoose
ScipioAmericanus said:
That's something that Ive said locally for a long time. The game rocked, but four plus hours to put together a box of guys? Please.
The-Patriot
Mongoose
I'll also have to agree with Ginsu.
The light infantry was indeed a huge let down, I was planning on building a Federation Army from the film also, so I feel your pain there.
I heard something about LAMI coming out again as pre-painted?
I'll say this to you Mongoose..
You can keep them metal or even have them in plastic,
You can even paint them for me and charge me a heep for them...
But if I don't see a %^&$# Morita Rifle your going to hear about it.
The light infantry was indeed a huge let down, I was planning on building a Federation Army from the film also, so I feel your pain there.
I heard something about LAMI coming out again as pre-painted?
I'll say this to you Mongoose..
You can keep them metal or even have them in plastic,
You can even paint them for me and charge me a heep for them...
But if I don't see a %^&$# Morita Rifle your going to hear about it.
ScipioAmericanus
Mongoose
Ginsu Moose said:
*rubs Ginsu's temples*
C'mon, partner! We're better than them! BREATHE! BREATHE! That's it. FEEL the air! BREATHE! BREATHE!
Go away folks!!!! There's nothing to see here! Yeah, he's another SST casualty...so what??? What are ya gonna make of it???? Get outta here! Go away you jackals!
It's ok, buddy, they're gone now...
If it's any consolation, when I packed up all my SST stuff to put in the basement, it took two of those china-sized 4ft boxes to get it all in. My Skinnies still dangle from a hook in a Sabol case...I need to clear them out of that for other things...like my new Skorne army.
SST:Evo had better win an Oscar.
The-Patriot
Mongoose
Hiromoon said:
Animated series you say?
Why should I care about the Animated series?
If I wanted to collect units from the Animated series I would of, but I wanted units from the film.
And when your told they are going to make Light Infantry FROM the movie, you should EXPECT them to look like they came off the screen and onto your table top.
Why should you care? Because that's where the guns the LAMI are using come from. That's why you should care.
And that expectation want's caused by what they stated. It comes from the assumption that they're going to be exactly like the ones from the movie.
I don't expect it to look like anything, honestly. I mean, if they said 'Skinnies', would you assume that they ment the humanoids from the Book? Or from the Animated series?
And that expectation want's caused by what they stated. It comes from the assumption that they're going to be exactly like the ones from the movie.
I don't expect it to look like anything, honestly. I mean, if they said 'Skinnies', would you assume that they ment the humanoids from the Book? Or from the Animated series?
The-Patriot
Mongoose
Hiromoon said:
Thats the whole point...
You cant say Light Infantry from the film or from the book. Theres only one kind of light infantry in SST and thats from the film.
Basicly there is no good enough excuse for what they did. How would you feel if the USMC Infantry squads were issued with SA80's and there was no good reason given for why M-class rifles were missing?
Yes you can. They look like the guys from the film, sans the moritas.
And frankly, that's not much of a comparison there, Patriot. The moritas from the films have become the Morita Carbine, and those got shunted to the SICON Agents. The LAMI are still using Morita Rifles though.
And frankly, that's not much of a comparison there, Patriot. The moritas from the films have become the Morita Carbine, and those got shunted to the SICON Agents. The LAMI are still using Morita Rifles though.
The-Patriot
Mongoose
The carbine was in the films along with the rifle.
I don't care what the animated series said happend to them, I want to see Light Infantry that look like they came off the screen and onto my table.
Simple as that.
And no they are not using Morita Rifles from Starship troopers the film are they?
You think that by giving one weapon the same name as another it's the same weapon?
Quit the fanboy talk and let's get real here, I know you know what im on about Hiromoon, you may not care about this issue, but it doesn't change the fact they got it wrong.
I don't care what the animated series said happend to them, I want to see Light Infantry that look like they came off the screen and onto my table.
Simple as that.
And no they are not using Morita Rifles from Starship troopers the film are they?
You think that by giving one weapon the same name as another it's the same weapon?
Quit the fanboy talk and let's get real here, I know you know what im on about Hiromoon, you may not care about this issue, but it doesn't change the fact they got it wrong.
ScipioAmericanus
Mongoose
Paladin said:
I just saved a TON of money by switching my insurance back to USAA.
True, they don't have cave-man adverts, but I did get a pretty spiffy plastic key chain. There's a lot to be said for that...
Man, I sure hope these people don't act like this offline. At this point, it's usually best to ignore these people. This back and forth arguing is only serving to destroy good threads.
Anyway. To me, the original SST rules were award worthy, it was a very good rules set and very original in the way it abstracted certain things. However, because it was so new it had plenty of oddities about it that weren't discovered until much later after a lot of games, nevertheless they still needed ironing out. For example, there was that strangeness with cover, how a single model out of cover could deny a whole unit cover just seemed wrong. There's plenty of other things I didn't like about the old rules, and just as many that I do like.
To take Hiromoon's analogy, it was more like a wild bonsai tree, delicate, simple, but rough around the edges. With the evolution changes, it's been trimmed into a smaller package without the rough edges.
However, one thing I'm not a fan of is the way that each unit box is basically new a special ability for an army. Whereas with traditional army book based games, a single unit has a lot of options and such, but with the new prepainted method, we've lost a lot of that unit customizeability.
Anyway. To me, the original SST rules were award worthy, it was a very good rules set and very original in the way it abstracted certain things. However, because it was so new it had plenty of oddities about it that weren't discovered until much later after a lot of games, nevertheless they still needed ironing out. For example, there was that strangeness with cover, how a single model out of cover could deny a whole unit cover just seemed wrong. There's plenty of other things I didn't like about the old rules, and just as many that I do like.
To take Hiromoon's analogy, it was more like a wild bonsai tree, delicate, simple, but rough around the edges. With the evolution changes, it's been trimmed into a smaller package without the rough edges.
However, one thing I'm not a fan of is the way that each unit box is basically new a special ability for an army. Whereas with traditional army book based games, a single unit has a lot of options and such, but with the new prepainted method, we've lost a lot of that unit customizeability.
