Given the imminent release of the Star Wars starship models (unfortunately as skewed towards the prequels as previous WOTC releases) I was wondering if there is an ACTA star wars mod. I know there is a B5W one (as well as mods for Freespace, Farscape, Star Trek, Star Gate and a few others) and was wondering if any other settings had been translated into ACTA.
Mods for ACTA?
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philogara_mk2
Mongoose
There were some stats posted a long-time (>1 year?) ago. Have you tried the forum search? I think they did some clean-out recently so it may not be here still, but worth a try.
Slightly Norse John
Mongoose
I perpetrated most of the Star Wars stats; the thread no longer exists, but the stats do if you want them back.
They were based on West End Games' take, which most of the Warsies seem to loathe with a passion. Funny thing, that; most of the extreme Star Trek fans seem to be interested in dressing up like the federation- the majority of the Star Wars fans who take it that far go pro- Imperial. One of the fan groups were so dedicated, they actually got written into the EU novels- the 501st (Vader's Fist) Stormtrooper Legion actually exist.
West End gets a lot of dislike because of it's flat out pro- Rebel bias, at least I reckon that's the reason. It would still be necessary to base anything on their details, I think- there just isn't enough information to go with the higher- canon shiplist from the Star Wars Technical Commentaries, or for that matter the super- abstracted mechanics of the WoTC system.
Speaking of SWTC- Lucas is no more a physicist or engineer than Straczynski or Roddenberry are and were, but he has some on his side. If I did go for the Saxton take on numbers, sizes, power and energy, I think I would have to put an Imperator's stats somewhere at or beyond Ancient PL. Severe scaling down, or simply declaring them not comparable, would be necessary.
They were based on West End Games' take, which most of the Warsies seem to loathe with a passion. Funny thing, that; most of the extreme Star Trek fans seem to be interested in dressing up like the federation- the majority of the Star Wars fans who take it that far go pro- Imperial. One of the fan groups were so dedicated, they actually got written into the EU novels- the 501st (Vader's Fist) Stormtrooper Legion actually exist.
West End gets a lot of dislike because of it's flat out pro- Rebel bias, at least I reckon that's the reason. It would still be necessary to base anything on their details, I think- there just isn't enough information to go with the higher- canon shiplist from the Star Wars Technical Commentaries, or for that matter the super- abstracted mechanics of the WoTC system.
Speaking of SWTC- Lucas is no more a physicist or engineer than Straczynski or Roddenberry are and were, but he has some on his side. If I did go for the Saxton take on numbers, sizes, power and energy, I think I would have to put an Imperator's stats somewhere at or beyond Ancient PL. Severe scaling down, or simply declaring them not comparable, would be necessary.
phoenixhawk
Mongoose
I did a Star Trek mod for ACTA a while ago. I still have all the info, but it needs updated. One of those projects for another day, unfortunately...
Chris
Chris
Slightly Norse John
Mongoose
Augh...
How many Star Trek ships share the same saucer-engineering section-warp nacelles general layout? How many of Dr Saxton's seventeen identified classes of Star Destroyer have the same basic delta hull and tower superstructure layout? In both cases, somewhere between the dominant majority and all of them.
There are even more Star Trek EU ships than there are Star Wars; I don't think it's going to be necessary to invent anything from whole cloth, there's bound to be an existing design that does the job.
Ex Astris Scientia (www.ex-astris-scientia.org) seems to be the best place to go for Trek ships, EU background and integration, etc.
How many Star Trek ships share the same saucer-engineering section-warp nacelles general layout? How many of Dr Saxton's seventeen identified classes of Star Destroyer have the same basic delta hull and tower superstructure layout? In both cases, somewhere between the dominant majority and all of them.
There are even more Star Trek EU ships than there are Star Wars; I don't think it's going to be necessary to invent anything from whole cloth, there's bound to be an existing design that does the job.
Ex Astris Scientia (www.ex-astris-scientia.org) seems to be the best place to go for Trek ships, EU background and integration, etc.
captainsmirk
Mongoose
Slightly Norse John said:
Which is funny because I only ever played fringe characters in the WE SW RPG, a bunch of self-serving cut-throats who had as much in common with the Rebels as they did with the Empire...
But I suppose that's just personal preference, not as if it was difficult to swap around stuff to match the background you want to portray...
Nick
Greg Smith
Mongoose
Slightly Norse John said:
Wierd. No one dislikes the movies because of their pro-rebel bias.
Of course West Ends Imperial sourcebook was great, especially with the size comparison chart that had the super star destroyer spread acroos 4 or 5 pages.
A lot of WE stuff becaome quasi-canon when it got integrated into the novels.On the subject of fans dressing up - there are plenty of Trek fans who dress as Klingons, not to mention learn the language (a step beyond most other sci fi fans).
LordClinto
Mongoose
Greg Smith said:
In addition, there is a college out in the midwestern US, Illinois or Indiana I think, that has Klingon as an actual language course you can pay for! :lol:
Morpheus1975
Mongoose
Why not since there are some colleges that claim to have pornography classes!
Perverts and weirdos unite!!!
No more classes that have a real point!
Perverts and weirdos unite!!!
No more classes that have a real point!
Greg Smith
Mongoose
Morpheus1975 said:
Some would say education is its own reward.
Also studying the psychiological effects of pornography isn't exactly pointless.
Anyway, back to the topic:
Has the Star Wars clicky game been released? How does the quality compare to micromachines?
Greg
TenaciousB
Mongoose
the West End games rpg of star wars was fantastic - a nifty little D6 system, and I also have the Ghostbusters RPG from them, which is a very similar system (not sure which one came first, but there u go).
Personally, I don't think a Star Wars game based on ACTA would work - Star Wars should be a game about fighters, not necessarily capital ships.
Personally, I don't think a Star Wars game based on ACTA would work - Star Wars should be a game about fighters, not necessarily capital ships.
LordClinto
Mongoose
The star wars game comes out on the 24th of Nov (only 2 days from now, jeez!) in the states.
Lord David the Denied
Mongoose
Slightly Norse John said:
The saucer and nacelles design is common because it works and is explained in the background info. It's all to do with warp field mechanics and the effectss of warp fields on living tissue.
Since when are there seventeen Star Destroyer classes? It went Victory-class, Imperial-class, Super-class. Some of the games and novels talk about Victory II-class and Imperial II-class, but that's it. Then there's the Eclipse-class, but that's so stupid it deserves to be forgotten. How can anyone complain about the Star Destroyer design? It's the best sci-fi ship design ever. Also, how can you want a Star Destroyer class variant that's a different shape? It'd be a totally different ship.
Locutus9956
Mongoose
Well TECHNICALLY and including the (shudder) prequels.....
Theres those crappy looking landing craft things though not sure they count as Star Destroyers,
Then theres the Venator Class SD's from episode 3
Then theres the VCD I
Then the ISD I
Then Executor (variously described as Executor Class super star destroyer or a super class star destroyer depending where you read)
Then the VSD II
Then ISD II
Then the Eclipse (also technically super class)
Then you COULD sort of count the Interdictor (its the same basic hull type)
And if you were really pushing it you could count the old style Dreadnought (though you'ld have to be really pushing your definition of 'star destroyer' to get away with this one...)
And even if you do all this then that STILL only makes 10.....
If you count all the known Super Star Destroyers seperately (I think there were two more mentioned in the books namely Lusankya and Thrawns flagship who's name I forget) then you MIGHT make it up to the 17 if theres others in books I havent read (I have not read every single star wars book in existence and Lucasarts seem to give canon status to anyone who's willing to buy the licence from them these days...)
Theres those crappy looking landing craft things though not sure they count as Star Destroyers,
Then theres the Venator Class SD's from episode 3
Then theres the VCD I
Then the ISD I
Then Executor (variously described as Executor Class super star destroyer or a super class star destroyer depending where you read)
Then the VSD II
Then ISD II
Then the Eclipse (also technically super class)
Then you COULD sort of count the Interdictor (its the same basic hull type)
And if you were really pushing it you could count the old style Dreadnought (though you'ld have to be really pushing your definition of 'star destroyer' to get away with this one...)
And even if you do all this then that STILL only makes 10.....
If you count all the known Super Star Destroyers seperately (I think there were two more mentioned in the books namely Lusankya and Thrawns flagship who's name I forget) then you MIGHT make it up to the 17 if theres others in books I havent read (I have not read every single star wars book in existence and Lucasarts seem to give canon status to anyone who's willing to buy the licence from them these days...)
well for the stardestroyers yes it would be easy to do the triangles etc, but then theres carrack class light cruisers, dreadnoughts, lancer class frigates, strike cruisers etc and thats just the imperials. the rebels are even harder cos theres all the differant classes of mon cal cruiser, and supposedly every one is unique, then nebulon B frigates, corellion corvettes and gunships, then later on more advanced ships.
