Miniatures and Temporary Army Lists

Hiromoon said:
Army List for North Korea (wip)
-NKArmy Infantry Squad
-NKArmy Type 63 Light Amphibious Tank
-NKArmy Type-82 (PT-85) Amphibious Tank
-NKArmy T-54 Medium Tank

be nice to see these in a game, although with my city scape i think amphibouse vehicles will be underusing their ability...

time to make a river maybe.
 
They also tooka look at the earlier parts of this thread and chuckled at the comments regarding the UK fighting Australia. "On the pitch, maybe, but never on the battlefield" was the only printable comment

That's because a lot of us have British relatives, like the rest of the country. We're just talking hypothetically, killing time before the game arrives. Mongoose probably won't bring out Aussies anyway. I don't think anyone seriously believes Australia would fight Britain so you can sleep soundly tonight.

im sure your find something somewhere on it if you searched, there was a cover up in the 80's reported in the european news paper at the time.

:lol: Priceless Mr.Evil, priceless.
 
I don't think anyone seriously believes Australia would fight Britain so you can sleep soundly tonight

A couple of Benylin helped in that regard as well, oh, and the kids not waking us up in the middle of the night for once :)
 
Secesh said:
im sure your find something somewhere on it if you searched, there was a cover up in the 80's reported in the european news paper at the time.

:lol: Priceless Mr.Evil, priceless.

He's right!
http://www.boutell.com/newfaq/history/inventedweb.html
Developed at the European Center for Nuclear Research

Its true that the US doesnt export as much as is let on (Remember all those stupid movie plots where the bread belt of America's wiped out and somehow this results in the world starving?) since most of the companies cottoned onto the fact that they can get it made in sweat shops across the border, but that said I dont think anyone who uses a computer, or watches movies can claim to have nothing originating from the USA...
Unless you use and Amiga and only watch Anime or something...
 
He's right! http://www.boutell.com/newfaq/history/inventedweb.html
Developed at the European Center for Nuclear Research

Dude, the world wide web is not the same thing as the internet.
 
Thats true, but Im willing to bet all of the sites you access are part of it, and use the HTML developed by that bloke.
Since we were discussing things made in America MR.Evil isn't entirly wrong.
 
I said internet. Internet. If you stand on your head, squint real hard and snort green paint through a straw you could say the sky looks yellow...but it's still blue. :lol:
 
Of which the WWW is a part, more to the point the part which you're using right now...
As far as Im aware the ARPA network wasn't really all that much, the main reason its credited with being the invention of the internet is because thats when the TCP/IP's were laid down. I'll conceed it was invented then, in the same way that the Romans invented electriciy. If thats the internet then so were the BBS I was using in the 80's.

Its like the completly eronius suggestion that Baird (Not sure on the spelling) invented the television. He might have come up with a rudimentry mechanicle system for sending images but it bears little if any resembelance to whats actually in use at the present.
 
Why do I always get left with the WikiExperts? I don't get paid to plug holes in your education system, but if I did I'd be saying:

LAY OFF THE WIKI DUDE! THAT STUFF WILL KILL YA!
 
Can the internet be attributed to any one individual or organization?
If so i'd say the person that came up with the Networking of computers gets the award..

concerning wiki,, applepie can kill too, if you eat too much;)
 
lol
internet invnted by a forigner

america see his invention and wish to develop it for their military.

forign bloke is then given an american passport, and nationality, this way the internet is an invention of an americn, he wasnt an american when he invented it, but was given american nationality along with some others, so in that way it is an american invention, but only by od means.

its like an american inventing a teleporter now and then given british citezinship a few months later so it can be claimed as a british invention if you will.

thats all i was pointing out.

any way this is straying way of topic.


interesting thing on news this morning was they recon in 10-30 years time climate change will make france and spain uninhabitable.. i find it hard to believe, but would make land wars possable for migrating nations.
 
in 10-30 years time climate change will make france and spain uninhabitable.. i find it hard to believe

Using extreme extraploations is nothing new. I remember when I was at school the "experts" told us that the whole of England would be turned into an endless city by 2000. It made agood news story and got alot of people excited, and may have helped fortify some of the green belt planning laws. Of course it was never going to happen, but was a useful catalyst for change.
 
DM said:
in 10-30 years time climate change will make france and spain uninhabitable.. i find it hard to believe

Using extreme extraploations is nothing new. I remember when I was at school the "experts" told us that the whole of England would be turned into an endless city by 2000. It made agood news story and got alot of people excited, and may have helped fortify some of the green belt planning laws. Of course it was never going to happen, but was a useful catalyst for change.

hehe i remeber at scool watchin a video about england i worked out then id be about 25-30 and im 33 now !!! eek 34 this month :(

any way the vid said we would have to wear silver suits to reflect the harmful sunrays, and we would have to ahve self powered homes with things like solarpanels and electric cars.

i spose they need to sue shock to promote action, if they said, well it will be a bit warmer and ice cream will be on sale at the sea side for longer, we wouldnt realy be to bothered about changing our ways :) mmm ice cream.
 
The Internet (not to be confused with World Wide Web):
www.orafaq.com said:
An electronic network of computers that includes nearly every university, government, and research facility in the world. Also included are many commercial sites. It started with four interconnected computers in 1969 and was known as ARPAnet.
And
www.tamu.edu said:
A worldwide network of computer networks. It is an interconnection of large and small networks around the globe. The Internet began in 1962 as a resilient computer network for the US military and over time has grown into a global communication tool of more than 12,000 computer networks that share a common addressing scheme.
and
www.idataexpress.com said:
Originally designed by the US Defense Department so that a communication signal could withstand a nuclear war and serve military institutions worldwide, the Internet was first known as the ARPAnet. The Internet is system of linked computer networks, international in scope, that facilitates data communication services such as remote login, file transfer, electronic mail and newsgroups.
History of ARPANET
http://www.dei.isep.ipp.pt/~acc/docs/arpa.html

The World Wide Web (not to be confused with the Internet, which may or may not be a series of tubes):
www.arl.org said:
A hypertext system of cross-linked data sources, which permits easy access to or publication of complex data types, including text, graphics, sound and animation, across the Internet. Initially developed at CERN (the European Center for Nuclear Research) in Geneva, Switzerland.
and
www.trainingfinder.org said:
A hypertext-based, distributed information system originally created by researchers at CERN, the European Laboratory for Particle Physics, to facilitate sharing research information. The Web presents the user with documents, called web pages, full of links to other documents or information systems. Selecting one of these links, the user can access more information about a particular topic. Web pages include text as well as multimedia (images, video, animation, sound). Servers are connected to the Internet to allow users to traverse (or "surf") the Web using a Web browser. In addition, many other resource formats such as Gopher are accessible by Web browsers.

So, the CERN folks made an add-on to the Internet, which was a US DOD project that was developed out of the Academic world.

Ergo, the US Invented the Internet.
 
a book printed in 1976 says Vinton Cerf employed by (ARPA) invented the internet that conected computers together in 1973, but his director an american by education Robert Kahn has also been aknowledged for its Development. As we all know history can be wrewriten so many times, the germans in WW2 said they were the originators of the king arthur tales as a way of getting a more interesting history for national pride.

the internet was certainly developed by a majority of americans, but its invention, is not quite so clear cut.

also it depends what you class as an internet ? if you mean computers comunicating over a distance, then late WW2 has examples of coding machines doing this, as they were computing machines they do clasify as computers, but this is all by the by in an international world. computers to europe are not imported via the us, and if the us disapeared tomorow of the face of the earth, the internet would still work.

if america decided to stop use of the internet, that would not cause a war, and i think thats part of the topic of this thread, its not who invented what or who exsports what, its more how exports would be relevent to a game of BF-evo for missions or reasons for going to war.
 
Hiromoon said:
Army List for North Korea (wip)
-NKArmy Infantry Squad
-NKArmy Type 63 Light Amphibious Tank
-NKArmy Type-82 (PT-85) Amphibious Tank
-NKArmy T-54 Medium Tank

Let's see..first, a correction..

-NKArmy T-54/55/58 Medium Tanks

-NKArmy VTT-323 (M-1973) APC
-NKArmy 57mm SPAAG
-NKArmy Mi-24 Hind attack Helicopter
-NKAirForce MiG-17

For the VTT-323:
Globalsecurity.org said:
M1973 -- The North Korean produced M1973 Sinhung VTT-323 is a licensed copy of the Chinese YW 531 APC. The vehicle features a welded steel, box-like hull with a small turret positioned just to the rear of the hull centerline. The VTT-323 has five roadwheels and a turret which mounts a 14.5mm and a 7.62mm machine gun, or a turret with twin 14.5-mm guns. Some versions have Susong-Po (AT-3/SAGGER variant) ATGM launcher and SA-7/16 manportable SAMs. It is nicknamed the "VET." The VET has a crew of four, consisting of a commander, gunner, loader and a driver. The vehicle can carry 10 fully-equipped infantrymen. In mechanized battalions, it is also used to mount 82mm mortars to form self-propelled batteries. The VTT-323 has been observed with a 107mm multiple rocket launcher (MRL) mounted on the rear. The VTT-323 has become the NKPA standard armored personnel carrier. It is organic to mechanized battalions of mechanized and armored brigades.
 
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